Go-Mer-Tonic posted:Chewie starts and stops as an unintelligible walking carpet.
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:Go-Mer-Tonic posted:Chewie starts and stops as an unintelligible walking carpet.I can't believe this is coming from the same person who talks about Jar-Jar existing to teach children not to judge a book by its cover. Do you really not see the irony of this statement coming from you of all people? WE'RE supposed to show all sorts of compassion and understanding for an irresponsible goofball like Jar-Jar, while YOU dismiss a demonstrably heroic character simply because he never speaks English? But thank you for the concrete proof of your complete double-standard when it comes to judging the two trilogies.
DarthApocalypse posted:darth-sinister posted:Being a hero isn't so much about bravery, but about the actions you take. You could be scared out of your mind, but still do something that winds up being heroic. Unless of course you weren't intending to do anything at all, and you benefit from a stroke of luck.
darth-sinister posted:Being a hero isn't so much about bravery, but about the actions you take. You could be scared out of your mind, but still do something that winds up being heroic.
DarthApocalypse posted:darth-sinister posted:Jar Jar is clumsy, but he did try to do heroic things on purpose twice in TPM. First time was when Jar Jar was on the barrel of the hover tank and Tarpals tried to get him to use the Booma, Jar Jar had intended to use it to stop the tank. Granted, his clumsy attempts to catch it resulted in some hi-jinks, but in the end, he got to disable the tank. Disabling one battle droid =/= disabling the whole tank. I don't even see how a poobaa that small was going to take out the tank anyway.
darth-sinister posted:Jar Jar is clumsy, but he did try to do heroic things on purpose twice in TPM. First time was when Jar Jar was on the barrel of the hover tank and Tarpals tried to get him to use the Booma, Jar Jar had intended to use it to stop the tank. Granted, his clumsy attempts to catch it resulted in some hi-jinks, but in the end, he got to disable the tank.
DarthApocalypse posted:darth-sinister posted:Later, when he realized that his tangled foot could be used as a weapon, he intentionally caused the fallen Battle Droid to fire on other Battle Droids. And yes, he surrendered when told to, because he knew that they couldn't fight all of them. He wasn't a warrior like Tarpals and Ceel. He didn't even want to be given a military rank. That's not true. He was diving all over the place trying to get the droid off, not intentionally using it as a weapon.
darth-sinister posted:Later, when he realized that his tangled foot could be used as a weapon, he intentionally caused the fallen Battle Droid to fire on other Battle Droids. And yes, he surrendered when told to, because he knew that they couldn't fight all of them. He wasn't a warrior like Tarpals and Ceel. He didn't even want to be given a military rank.
DarthApocalypse posted:[quote=darth-sinister] And what was he supposed to do? Stand there and be run over by the giant Boomas? What about Indiana Jones and the giant boulder? Jar Jar ran because he knew that he was going to be hurt by the Boomas if he didn't.
DarthApocalypse posted:[quote=darth-sinister]OBI-WAN: "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck." QUI-GON: "Our meeting was not a coincidence. Nothing happens by accident." Jar Jar may have been a clumsy fool, but what he pulled off was not luck. It was the will of the Force.
DarthApocalypse posted:[quote=darth-sinister]His clumsy ways helped out. But he is heroic because he fought in the battle. Being heroic doesn't mean that he has to be Jedi like. Being heroic means that doing something noble without thought of reward or of one's self.