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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/19 3:34pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief? - Date Edited: 8/19 3:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: EmeraldBlade
	Take Anakin's transformation; Even today, on Planet Earth, we can perform hand transplants. Of course, much work has to be done, though this is no doubt expected in the real world. But, in a society that has achieved Hyper-Drive? Hmp. Within the next few years I have little doubt that decently functioning "artificial" limbs will be, not only adequate, but superior. Discuss. -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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DarthDragon164 Registered: Jun '08	Date Posted: 8/19 3:50pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. At first, it seems like you are saying that Anakin should have been given transplanted limbs, but then you seem to flip flop and say that prostetics are superior to transplanted ones. Can you clarify? -----signature----- We're Doing it Live! "It's a freakin' Trap, man!" -Ackbar on Spice Jedi Knight in the New Jedi Trials- Master to KotORBF2Female_Revan EU Podcast: http://www.vimeo.com/jedibeacon Arranged by Tom Wallace
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Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Title: Manager: • Prequel Trilogy Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 8/19 6:50pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	I'm a little confused as well. Basically I just keep everything in the perspective that it occurred a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
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Hernalt Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/20 1:57pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	The word 'anachronism' may avail the opening post.
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ShaneP Title: Lucasfilm Projects Gremlin(Manager ) Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 8/20 2:49pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	This is kinda like one of those "SW tech vs real World tech" topics. -----signature----- Keep Your Words Sweet. You May Have To Eat Them.
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Jovieve Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 8/20 3:57pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	Well, the only way we can reconnect limbs now (which I think what the OP is talking about and not transplants) is if the damage isn't severe and they get to it quickly or the limb is put on ice until they can. If the damage is bad, then the reconnect won't take. I'm not sure what a lightsaber searing would do to nerve endings. It would certainly seal off blood supplies, and kill bone tissue. Sounds like Anakin would have needed a lot of work to try to save his limb. Who knows if such medical facilities were available on the clone cruisers and not just triage centers to stabilize troopers until they could get to a real facility. I know the EU book Wild Space deals with the immediate aftermath of the Geonosis Dooku fight and in that book, the Jedi took Anakin (and Obi-Wan) all the way back to Coruscant for treatment. So that might have something to do with it. -----signature----- "Are there Sith on this planet, Master Kenobi? Are they coming for us now? Should we - I don't know - run?" "Run?" he echoed. "Run where, do you suggest?" "I don't know! Away?"
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Hernalt Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/20 4:40pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	We will always be able to suspend disbelief so long as we are bound to Earth. Present depictions of the future or of future technology, such as a 'society with hyperdrive', can rely upon or be based upon solely those objects and principles that presently avail themselves for depiction. What the future will actually turn out to be, if the species / life-form / sentient matrix formerly known as homo sapiens ever go so far as to control the energy output of the 3-million solar mass black hole at the center of the Milky Way, is so entirely outside our conception, and _certainly_ outside of the ordinary technological, physical, chemical, computational, and engineering vernacular of Joe Summer Movie as to be vanishingly irrelevant to a good yarn. And chopped off limbs, when done judiciously with a dash of "NOOOOOO!!!", or alternatively, "AHGGHH!!!", make good yarn. The likelihood that a Kardashev III would have completely uploadable/downloadable/rewritable (Daft Punk) sentiences and bodies (bio, mech, cyborg), as per the Kurzweil Singularity, does not assist Joe Summer Movie to feel the present absence of said limb. We, the ordinary audience, NEED to know and see it is NOT there, and has been nominally replaced with a fitting symbol of expedience, a tiny slice or partition of the Dark Side. Derrida's idea here is erasure (sous rature) or strikethrough. The limb that is an ex-limb, that has passed on, that is no more, that has ceased to be, is replaced by an imposter that better get under our skin. It is meant (auteur) to be disturbing and an ordinary human (autonomous) ought to find it disturbing.
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MissPadme Registered: Jul '98	Date Posted: 8/20 6:26pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	I figure by the time it's totally obsolete, 1) I'll probably be taking a dirt nap and 2) once the movies fall into public domain, they will be remade over and over with "updated" tech. Trust me, the story is flexible enough for it to happen. --MissPadme -----signature----- http://lazypadawan.livejournal.com The Star Wars Prequel Appreciation Society http://starwarsprequelappreciationsociety.wordpress.com/ Eat my flame of justice!
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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/24 4:56pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief? - Date Edited: 8/24 5:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: EmeraldBlade
	I'm sorry about this mess. I was not very clear. I'll get to the point: It will not be long until our own technology surpasses technology in the GFFA. I'm thinking specifically of medical science. I see this as a problem considering that Darth Vader has to walk around in a life-support suit. See what I mean now? -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/24 4:59pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	Jovieve posted: Well, the only way we can reconnect limbs now (which I think what the OP is talking about and not transplants) No. Transplants are possible. They just suck. For now... -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/24 5:00pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	Vader's problems go way, way beyond what even near-term medical technology can honestly fix. The man's lungs are dead. Not asthmatic, not shot through with tumors. They're dead flesh that doesn't work at all. The suit basically breathes for him, and does so so well that he can function more or less normally in society. Also, he's got nerve replacements in his spinal column. That's beyond what we can do now or even ten or twenty years from now. Vader's medical technology, outside of the limbs, is way beyond ours. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/24 5:03pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	I have no doubt that it is beyond our own technology, but it is not far enough beyond it. Granted, this is nobodies fault, but we are talking about a Galaxy with hyper-drive technology. Where will our own medical science be in 100 years? I think many would be shocked. -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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DRush76 Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 8/24 10:06pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	EmeraldBlade posted: Take Anakin's transformation; Even today, on Planet Earth, we can perform hand transplants. Of course, much work has to be done, though this is no doubt expected in the real world. But, in a society that has achieved Hyper-Drive? Hmp. Within the next few years I have little doubt that decently functioning "artificial" limbs will be, not only adequate, but superior. Discuss. Discuss what? What exactly are you trying to say?
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voodoopuuduu Title: Classic Trilogy Trivia Host Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 8/24 11:01pm Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	Hmmm, I havent seen anything in the way of Bacta tank research. -----signature----- Winner CT Trivia Challenge 44, 54 Winner PT Trivia Challenge 10 , 13, 14, 17 Joint-Winner CT Challenge 49 and 50, PT Challange 18
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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/25 12:50am Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	It is the disparity between medical science in the GFFA and the rest of its technology. This is my issue. By the time we have anything like hyperdrive, bacta will be an old relic of primitive medical science. -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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EmeraldBlade Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 8/25 12:52am Subject: How long until we can no longer suspend disbelief?
	DRush76 posted: EmeraldBlade posted: Take Anakin's transformation; Even today, on Planet Earth, we can perform hand transplants. Of course, much work has to be done, though this is no doubt expected in the real world. But, in a society that has achieved Hyper-Drive? Hmp. Within the next few years I have little doubt that decently functioning "artificial" limbs will be, not only adequate, but superior. Discuss. Discuss what? What exactly are you trying to say? Scroll up a little. I tried to make it a little more clear. If I'm still making no sense, then forget this thread. In hindsight, it was obviously a waste of time. -----signature----- I am not Colour Blind, believe it or not. And I can spell, believe it or not.
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