Green_Destiny_Sword posted:Lastly, if someone wants to argue that the midis gave Anakin "potential" greater than anyone (a famous Anakin defense) well then it just makes the Jedi even dumber that the most powerful Force User ever shows up at their doorstep and they dont even have the sense to know that the Sith are back or that maybe they should pay special attention to him, or that maybe the prophecy is indeed true..etc.
Green_Destiny_Sword posted: "I'm not sure" Hmmm....doesn't sound like a definitive statement of Ani's power to me at all. It sounds like he's not sure as to what it means. The bottom lne is that TPM directly defines the midis and Qui Gon said nothing about power at all. he said it's about "hearing" the "will of the force." I hardly see how this translates to the midis being a Force battery. By Qui Gon's definition, why would a Sith need midis?? A Sith has no interest in hearing the "Will of the Force." And if they were, Anakin should have been far more powerful than anyone else. And he's not even close. The OT quotes don't really seem persuasive, especially since midis weren't even a part of the films then. At the end of the day it just doesn't wash with much logic at all. Lastly, if someone wants to argue that the midis gave Anakin "potential" greater than anyone (a famous Anakin defense) well then it just makes the Jedi even dumber that the most powerful Force User ever shows up at their doorstep and they dont even have the sense to know that the Sith are back or that maybe they should pay special attention to him, or that maybe the prophecy is indeed true..etc.
Sinnion posted:Green_Destiny_Sword posted: Lastly, if someone wants to argue that the midis gave Anakin "potential" greater than anyone (a famous Anakin defense) well then it just makes the Jedi even dumber that the most powerful Force User ever shows up at their doorstep and they dont even have the sense to know that the Sith are back or that maybe they should pay special attention to him, or that maybe the prophecy is indeed true..etc. I actually agree with you here Green_Destiny_Sword . I'm going to take this a step further and say that Midi's don't affect your ability to use the Force. [...] Yoda states quite clearly the Force isn't what your midichlorian count is, it's your dedication, determination, and all that jazz that makes your ability in the force grow.
Green_Destiny_Sword posted: Lastly, if someone wants to argue that the midis gave Anakin "potential" greater than anyone (a famous Anakin defense) well then it just makes the Jedi even dumber that the most powerful Force User ever shows up at their doorstep and they dont even have the sense to know that the Sith are back or that maybe they should pay special attention to him, or that maybe the prophecy is indeed true..etc.
Green_Destiny_Sword posted:"I'm not sure" Hmmm....doesn't sound like a definitive statement of Ani's power to me at all. It sounds like he's not sure as to what it means. The bottom lne is that TPM directly defines the midis and Qui Gon said nothing about power at all. he said it's about "hearing" the "will of the force." I hardly see how this translates to the midis being a Force battery.
Green_Destiny_Sword posted:By Qui Gon's definition, why would a Sith need midis?? A Sith has no interest in hearing the "Will of the Force."
Green_Destiny_Sword posted:And if they were, Anakin should have been far more powerful than anyone else. And he's not even close. The OT quotes don't really seem persuasive, especially since midis weren't even a part of the films then. At the end of the day it just doesn't wash with much logic at all.
Sinnion posted:Luke is special because he was chosen by the Force to be special.
Sinnion posted:I'm sure the Jedi thought: Well a higher midichlorian count must mean you have a potential with the Force.
Sinnion posted:But I think that midi's were still a huge mystery to them. By the time of the OT Yoda doesn't bother explaining the mystery to them, he just expalins the Force how it is.
Sinnion posted: actually agree with you here Green_Destiny_Sword . I'm going to take this a step further and say that Midi's don't affect your ability to use the Force. All Midi's do is create the Force. From what I've heard the Force is the result of these mysterious creatures, and that this Force is formed "between you...me...the tree...the rock...everywhere! Yes, even between this land and that ship!" Yoda explains in ESB: YODA: And well you should not. For my ally in the Force. And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you. Here, between you...me...the tree...the rock...everywhere! Yes, even between this land and that ship! So lets examine this. Life creates this "Force." Life creates it not your personal connection with midichlorians. It's energy surrounds us and binds, o.k.; regardless of the counts of midichlorians you have, I would assume. This energy is relative to everyone, I believe, is what this definition relates. We are luminous beings not this crude matter...ahhhh ok, ok..so regardless what body parts you do and don't have you can still be able to use the force. It's between everything! The rock, you, me, the land, and the ship,..yes, yes and even Darth Vader... Yoda states quite clearly the Force isn't what your midichlorian count is, it's your dedication, determination, and all that jazz that makes your ability in the force grow. Midi's in the Star Wars Galaxy seem as mysterious to the actual characters as they are to us. They are simply the identity of where the force comes from. They reside in us at certain levels but what the Jedi believe about them seems to be theory. Yoda gets it right by bringing them out of the equation totally!
SithStarSlayer posted:How many midichlorians do Rancors have? It would be be totally BOSS, if GL redid ROTJ and had Luke fall into the pit and have the Rancor fry his butt with some Force Lightning... That way, he wouldn't whine like such a wuss when Palpy zaps him a little bit later on in the movie.