Author Topic: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread
Pocu 
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Date Posted: 10/8 1:39pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread - Date Edited: 10/8 1:49pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Pocu
DarthBoba posted:

To sum up:
-mitochondria do make life possible, as eukaryotic cells can't survive without them.

-they vary in number from cell to cell.
So, yes, basically they're midichlorians, besides that everyone is supposed to have the same number of mitochondria per cell, and mitos don't let you throw things around by thinking about it.


This is very strange theory.. I am not so good in Biology but there are no 'useless' organelles within the cells. Not only mitochondrias are life important. The same applies for DNA, RNA etc... What if we cut off the membrane? wink


From your point of view many midichlorians seems to live in each cell.. Not just single or group of them in each cell. This explains some things. For example - why did not Vader loose 1/8 (just example) of his powers together with the limbs. I am still not convinced that he has the same count of midiclorians as before but it makes sense.

Hm.. I really think that injuries harm the contact of the Jedi with the Force. No way! Vader's limbs were replaced successfully by metal ones because of the technological progress. But this does not apply for the midichlorians. Jedi can use them on order to become well acquainted with the Force but not influence them. I think they still know a little for these small living things. As we do happy It is something like microwave: you know how to use it but if it is broken you cannot fix it.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/8 3:39pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread - Date Edited: 10/8 3:40pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
SithStarSlayer posted:
Maybe not the actual statistics, but the premise was certainly validated via Novelization.


No, the statistic in question appears in no film, novelization, or other official source.

 

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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9 8:48am Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread
Like I said, "the premise"...
Sidious attempted to 'stave off the loss of precious midichlorians'.(paraphrased)
No stats were provided, but their loss was a definite concern.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9 4:10pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread - Date Edited: 10/9 4:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
SithStarSlayer posted:
Sidious attempted to 'stave off the loss of precious midichlorians'.


That's not from a novelization. It's an example of author fallibility. Blood replenishes.

 

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eht13  668 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9 6:46pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread
^ This just made me think of something. We are shown in TPM that the midichlorian test is done on blood cells, and that higher counts of midichlorians per cell is what they are considering to make one stronger with the Force. So are we to assume that only blood cells contain midichlorians, or could they exist in the cells of muscle tissue and bone as well? If it is only blood, then I see the point that not only would the concentration not change, but even the total count would not really change either. But if total count of all cells added together is what determines strength with the Force, then midichlorians also inhabiting tissue and bone cells would make a difference if one were to lose arms or legs (even though the concentration per cell did not change).

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/9 7:10pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread - Date Edited: 10/9 7:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
eht13 posted:
So are we to assume that only blood cells contain midichlorians, or could they exist in the cells of muscle tissue and bone as well?


All living cells.

eht13 posted:
But if total count of all cells added together is what determines strength with the Force


Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you? Not to mention that the total count isn't what's measured to determine potential. Anakin wasn't ground up into a powder and fed into the machine.

 

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Pocu 
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Date Posted: 10/10 6:01am Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread
eht13 posted:
^ This just made me think of something. We are shown in TPM that the midichlorian test is done on blood cells, and that higher counts of midichlorians per cell is what they are considering to make one stronger with the Force. So are we to assume that only blood cells contain midichlorians, or could they exist in the cells of muscle tissue and bone as well?

No, not only the blood cells. Every single cell happy
But there is something other standing question. They are equal but they also live symbiotically inside the cells. Which forward us to: different cells --- different functions --- different type of relations with the cell's organelles and may be different importance for contact with the Force? thinking

 

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SithStarSlayer  8653 posts
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Date Posted: 10/12 9:47am Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread
Arawn_Fenn posted:
SithStarSlayer posted:
Sidious attempted to 'stave off the loss of precious midichlorians'.
That's not from a novelization. It's an example of author fallibility. Blood replenishes.
Agreed. But blood isn't the issue with Anakin's case. Its a shame midi's don't do like that one mutant in X-men untited, Wolvy whacked his arms and he regrew them...

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 10/12 2:57pm Subject: Midichlorians Discussion - The Official Thread - Date Edited: 10/12 2:59pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
SithStarSlayer posted:
Agreed. But blood isn't the issue with Anakin's case.


That source you quoted seemed to imply it was ( and it's X-Men: The Last Stand you're thinking of grin ).

 

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