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Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Binary_Sunset
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Date Posted:
5/31/02 7:30pm
Subject:
Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
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Date Edited:
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In ESB, Yoda lives on a world that is simply chock-full of all kinds of wildlife--both flora and fauna. Also in this movie Yoda tells Luke (regarding the Force), "Life creates it; makes it grow." How appropriate for the Jedi Master to live on a planet that is literally crawling with life.
The antithesis of Dagobah, of course, is the Death Star (and, on a smaller scale, the Star Destroyers). These are completely artificial environments with no plant or animal life in evidence. They are the very illustration of the word "sterile".
So where does Lucas have Yoda live in the PT? On a big sterile planet that looks more like the Death Star than anything else.
Lucas should have had Yoda living on Dagobah in the PT. It would have been the perfect hermitic home for him. There the most promising of Jedi would go to be trained by the wisest Jedi Master of them all.
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darth_rastan
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
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your a bit of a
Strilo
edit: No flaming.
you know.
lucas cant have placed thejedi council, the ultimate power in the galaxy( at the time) on some dinigy little swapy planet that know one wants to go to. it's just stupid.
just cause yoda lives on a planet with virtually no wild life, doesn't mean he is rejecting the force, he is just fulfilling his jedi duites!!!
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ST-TPM-ASF-TNE
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Date Posted:
5/31/02 7:37pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning at all
Binary_Sunset
I strongly feel this is nothing more than an excuse to bash TPM.
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Binary_Sunset
, if Yoda had lived on Dagobah at the time of the Prequel Trilogy, he would be isolated from the rest of the Jedi and not able to help.
Obviously he doesn't need to deal with such a problem in the CT because there aren't any other Jedi around.
Besides, even if Coruscant is full of metal and such, it is also full of life--think how many people must live there.
Besides, part II, if we saw Dagobah again and again in the PT, it would make the CT less unique. I for one prefer a PT that is as different from the CT as possible in terms of things seen, effects and images used, characters, etc.
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
eidiot?
I'm not sure, but I think I've been insulted.
In this scenario, Yoda wouldn't be on the Jedi Council. He'd be a crusty hermit on Dagobah who didn't have time for anything social beyond training the most promising Jedi.
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ST-TPM-ASF-TNE
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Why would have prefered him that way? He's a jedi master. Why would he spend his time on Dagobah as a hermit? It doesn't make any sense.
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Binary_Sunset
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
"He's a jedi master. Why would he spend his time on Dagobah as a hermit? It doesn't make any sense."
Look at many of the religious icons of religions such as Christianity, Buddhism, and Hinduism. Very often, the most spiritual and wise of monks would be hermits living in faraway places. In fact, it was so common that the motif is often used in comic strips: Think of how many times you've read a strip in which a character climbs to the top of a mountain and asks a hermit a question.
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I_AM_IRON_MAN
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5/31/02 7:44pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
I think your idea certainly has merit, Binary. I always pictured the Jedi as ranger type characters, that is, a loose collection of force users who generally guard the galaxy on their own. If there was a Jedi Council, it would meet like every so years or so (if they were rangers).
Keeping Yoda on Dagobah would keep his mystery alive. Hopeful Jedi would be able to seek him out quest-like, and he could train who he felt was worthy as he wished.
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"I always pictured the Jedi as ranger type characters, that is, a loose collection of force users who generally guard the galaxy on their own."
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I don't like the bureaucratic feel the Jedi Council has in TPM.
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Lurking_Around
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5/31/02 7:50pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Nope, I had no problems with Yoda on Coruscant (what I do have a problem is that the bloody planet is so hard to spell
). Probably because I read EU and all, and in Zahn's books it was implied that Yoda went
hiding
in Dagobah. It was not his home.
Just MHO
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ST-TPM-ASF-TNE
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Date Posted:
5/31/02 7:55pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
I prefer the way Yoda has been so far in the PT. I don't really think it would be that interesting for Yoda to be only on Dagobah throughout the PT.
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Though I'm a basher, I have to agree with ST on this one
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sdj
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5/31/02 8:26pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Coruscant is not the opposite of life it's just not a swamp planet. It's actually teeming with life and beauty. It's very artistic and the inside of the Jedi temple is very serene.
I think your fault Binary is that you are not open to the new ideas that the prequels have to offer. Of course it's not going to be the OT all over again. So I pity you Binary because you are too closed minded to enjoy the new films.
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Lurking_Around
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5/31/02 8:32pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
You know, there's no need to flame Binary. We can disagree with the idea without making refrences/personal attacks to the one making the idea.
Anyway, perhaps the 'beauracratic' nature of the Jedi is the one leading to the downfall. Even in the OT, Yoda sounded a wee bit proud, saying that its his own counsel to decide who should be trained.
Just MHO
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woody_1138
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5/31/02 9:16pm
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I find it hard to believe that 3 years later people are still finding new ways to bash this film.
There's a new Star Wars film out that is full of new things to whine and moan about. Or is Binary one of those people who think that George has made AOTC better because he listened to all of his whining and moaning for 3 years?
(sigh) If only all directors had an unappreciative fan-base to lead them on the path to success. Every movie would be bloody brilliant.
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Date Posted:
5/31/02 9:27pm
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RE: Yoda living on Coruscant is wrong.
Perhaps Yoda did not spend that much time ON CORUSCANT until the shadow of the Dark Side began to fall, requiring more and more of his time... ever consider that?
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