| Author |
Topic:
"Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
rhonderoo
Title:
Former Head Admin
Registered:
Aug '02
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 11:14am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
It was frustrating not getting to Vader until later, but I think the rest of the book makes up for it.
-----signature-----
DT421  And the hot chick is really the sister of the good guy, but they don't know it, and they kiss. Which is kind of messed up. I mean, what if they had done it instead of just kissed?
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Jedi_Momma
Registered:
Nov '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 11:56am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
bariss posted:
I didn't say anything like what you have suggested. I believe he has been affected profoundly by the staggering level of betrayal. However, I do not believe he is anywhere close to falling apart like is implied at the beginning of Last of the Jedi.
We all perceive different things in the movies. 
Bariss - I couldn't agree more! Obi-wan, as portrayed in the movies, would never, never be the pathethic wreck as portrayed by Watson. Yes, grief affects people but it doesn't profoundly alter their character! That woman couldn't write Obi-wan as true to character if her life depended on it. My older son had a few of the JA books when he was in grade school and after reading them, I was appalled. My reaction was: "Who is this sniveling, self-doubting ninny and what did he do w/ Obi-wan? They should look in the Temple basement for the pod."
I haven't yet read Dark Lord but I'm sure my son will be getting it for Christmas  and I hope it serves both Vader and Obi-wan well.
-----signature-----
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. Galileo Galilei
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
darth-sinister
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered:
Jun '01
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 11:56am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
Patience is a virtue.
-----signature-----
Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor
came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge."
Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side.
Something, something, something complete."
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
LordVader66
Registered:
Aug '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 3:05pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
i just didnt like how order 66 was ruined and how the clones could defy it. to me the clones were programmed to not have any free will. not matter how good of friends they were with jedi, when order 66 came down they immediatly understood what it meant and the jedi were now there sworn enemies.
-----signature-----
Peace in the Middle East
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
yaddidameen
Registered:
Jun '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 3:42pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
LordVader66 posted:
i just didnt like how order 66 was ruined and how the clones could defy it. to me the clones were programmed to not have any free will. not matter how good of friends they were with jedi, when order 66 came down they immediatly understood what it meant and the jedi were now there sworn enemies.
kind of close minded wouldn't you say? programmed or not, they are still living breathing beings, and i don't know about you but any living being that sees what the jedi were fighting for and were in the same position as those troops would have done the same thing.
dark lord was a good book, not great but good. i like stover better, but luceno had some great moments in this book. vader vs ROAN was good, and i absolutely loved sidious' interaction.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
LordVader66
Registered:
Aug '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 3:52pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
i think it was a good book as well. however, the title was misleading and focused way to much on the jedi. the clones are less than humans you need to understand. they dont become attachment to the jedi, they are soldiers, period. i liked the jedi characters except starstone she really didnt do it for me. i absolutely loved the interaction between sidious and anakin and well as tarkin. at first i didnt like that they had vader being depressed and down and out but i realized that really how he should have been acting. it just wouldnt have been believe if vader still act like he did pre-suit, so like i said a good book.
-----signature-----
Peace in the Middle East
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
yaddidameen
Registered:
Jun '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 3:59pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
LordVader66 posted:
i think it was a good book as well. however, the title was misleading and focused way to much on the jedi. the clones are less than humans you need to understand. they dont become attachment to the jedi, they are soldiers, period. i liked the jedi characters except starstone she really didnt do it for me. i absolutely loved the interaction between sidious and anakin and well as tarkin. at first i didnt like that they had vader being depressed and down and out but i realized that really how he should have been acting. it just wouldnt have been believe if vader still act like he did pre-suit, so like i said a good book.
i never said they were humans, read my whole post. they may not be human but they are still living, breathing, thinking beings, that still have common sense, if someone gives their life to save you or risks it for that matter, programmed or not you aren't just going to turn your back on someone who has done somehting like that for you. i don't think a clone disobeying this order is unrealistic at all (if such a word could be used in the star wars mythos) take the matrix for example. the sentinels were programmed to destroy the humans. hunt and destroy simple as that, yet when neo gave his life for both the numans and the machines, the machines understood his sacrifice and ceased their attack. same type of thing, i hope you understand where i'm coming from.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
LordVader66
Registered:
Aug '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 5:57pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
in rots, you see order 66 executed perfectly. just 3 seconds before palps contacts commander cody on order 66, cody gives kenobi his lightsaber and they act real buddy buddy with each other. but once cody gets his new orders, he simply executes them like he should, it didnt matter that he was close to kenobi, he had orders to kill him and since hes a clone he will execute those orders without hesisation. to me when cody hands kenobi his lightsaber, gets order 66 from palps and then simply turns around and says "blast him" to me thats what order 66 is about.
-----signature-----
Peace in the Middle East
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
sithrules70
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 6:04pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
the clones were made to obey without question,if they breath or eat thats irrelevant,they are just a flesh and bones version of a droid.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
darth-sinister
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered:
Jun '01
|
Date Posted:
12/6/05 11:22pm
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
Throughout the books, it was shown that the Clonetroopers were slowly evolving away from their programming. Not just the ARC Troopers, but others too. Despite the great work of the Kaminoans, we see that some of them were flawed. Prior to the end of the Clone Wars, a new batch of Clonetroopers were launched to aid the dimishing forces of the Republic. These are the ones we see in ROTS and the tie-in features. So we see a small number compared to the thousands that were still obeying orders.
-----signature-----
Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor
came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge."
Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side.
Something, something, something complete."
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
SWJaggy
Title: ORFF Co-Chapter Rep
Registered:
Nov '03
|
Date Posted:
12/7/05 7:02am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
I so badly want to read this book. Hopefully I'll get it for Christmas. Is it any good?
-----signature-----
"Fan of The 4400"
I know the world I prevented but is the world I created any better- Collier
It's not about getting an ability, it's about making a difference- Kyle
I belong here with Tom, with NTAC, for the search of Collier. I'm apart of that
my daugh
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
darth_ral
Registered:
Nov '04
|
Date Posted:
12/7/05 8:51am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
definitely worth the read
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Jedi_pain11
Registered:
Mar '04
|
Date Posted:
12/7/05 10:00am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
|
Just finnished reading Dark Lord. Excellent read so much to the point that I read the final 232 pages in one sitting. I could not put this book down. If you are a Vader fan this is a must read.
-----signature-----
"Im an alcoholic 'cause George Lucas ruined my life" Carrie Fisher at the AFI tribute
Episode 3: Gone With the Windu
I AM ZIM!!!!!!!!!
HARRY POTTER SUCKS, DEAL WITH IT!
POWER! UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!!!!
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
sithrules70
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
12/7/05 10:06am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
really ??  get it as soon as possible i will
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
alansmithee85
Registered:
Nov '05
|
Date Posted:
12/7/05 10:45am
Subject:
RE: "Dark Lord" by Luceno (Spoilers)
|
sithrules70 posted:
really ?? get it as soon as possible i will
I generally, and by generally I mean ubiquitously, don’t like EU writing. And I didn’t like LOE—his style isn’t very involving and way too many EU continuity throw ins. But I do highly recommend Dark Lord. Couldn’t put it down either, and the ending is particularly engrossing. Even liked Roan Shryne, don’t know why everyone doesn’t.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
