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Should "The Duel" be reclassified as "Yoda vs. Sidious?" Instead of "Obi Wan vs. Vader?"
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r8hitman
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10/27/05 10:04am
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RE: Should "The Duel" be reclassified as "Yoda vs. Sidious?" Instead of "Obi Wan vs. Vader?"
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Oh Ok.
But what's up man??
It seems like we're the only ones who see the importance of the Sid/Yoda confrontation. 
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farrellg
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It would be insane.
Especially considering the way he died.
I don't see how the way the Emperor died would make it insane for him to be much more powerful than Yoda. He completely overpowered Luke with the force lightning, and Vader was still able to kill him. If they wrote the story so that Yoda couldn't handle lightning any better than Luke (a full-fledged Jedi Knight and the greatest warrior we saw in the OT), it wouldn't mean that the Emperor can't be killed by being thrown down a shaft.
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sithrules70
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r8hitman posted:
Oh Ok.
But what's up man??
It seems like we're the only ones who see the importance of the Sid/Yoda confrontation.
annoying isn't it ??
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r8hitman
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farrellg posted:
It would be insane.
Especially considering the way he died.
I don't see how the way the Emperor died would make it insane for him to be much more powerful than Yoda. He completely overpowered Luke with the force lightning, and Vader was still able to kill him. If they wrote the story so that Yoda couldn't handle lightning any better than Luke (a full-fledged Jedi Knight and the greatest warrior we saw in the OT), it wouldn't mean that the Emperor can't be killed by being thrown down a shaft.
Yeah but it would be strange to have this "all powerful, plan everything out,sit at his desk and fry the greatest jedi of all times without leaving his seat" emperor die from merely being "thrown down a shaft". 
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Lars_Muul
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Who said anything about importance? Noone implied that any of the duels wasn't important. Of course they're important, that's the whole point! They are The Duels, in which the Jedi try to destroy the Sith but fail.
I love The Duels
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farrellg
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Yeah but it would be strange to have this "all powerful, plan everything out,sit at his desk and fry the greatest jedi of all times without leaving his seat" emperor die from merely being "thrown down a shaft".
You may be right. I suppose the wisest Jedi Master should know how to defend himself against the greatest Sith lord's lightning. If the Emperor was that strong that even the Jedi Master with the most experience and the greatest knowledge of the Force couldn't challenge him, then it would be hard to believe that he couldn't find a way to somehow use the Force to stop Vader's attack.
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r8hitman
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10/27/05 10:26am
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Exactly.
EDIT:
I think if Lucas had kept that scene of Yoda disarming the emperor in the film, we would have a better understanding of Sidious' power. (or lack of  )
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sithrules70
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10/27/05 10:40am
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r8hitman posted:
Exactly.
EDIT:
I think if Lucas had kept that scene of Yoda disarming the emperor in the film, we would have a better understanding of Sidious' power. (or lack of )
disarming means nothing,palpatine won the fight
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jedibri
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10/27/05 10:45am
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UUUUMMMM NO!
Master vs. Padawan is great because they know each others moves.
Master vs. Master while cool just lacked something you'd expect from 2 great Force Master's.
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farrellg
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10/27/05 10:54am
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I think if Lucas had kept that scene of Yoda disarming the emperor in the film, we would have a better understanding of Sidious' power. (or lack of thinking )
Maybe Lucas didn't have the duel end with the Emperor being disarmed because he wanted the Emperor to look powerful. According to McDiarmid, the Emperor is the fastest swordsman in the galaxy (see the quotes in my signature).
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r8hitman
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farrellg posted:
I think if Lucas had kept that scene of Yoda disarming the emperor in the film, we would have a better understanding of Sidious' power. (or lack of thinking )
Maybe Lucas didn't have the duel end with the Emperor being disarmed because he wanted the Emperor to look powerful. According to McDiarmid, the Emperor is the fastest swordsman in the galaxy (see the quotes in my signature).
Oh, Oh, and my dad can beat up Superman and Spiderman and all the X-men at the same time.
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r8hitman
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^^That wasnt directed at you, but at the level of foolishness of Ian's comments.
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sithrules70
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r8hitman posted:
farrellg posted:
I think if Lucas had kept that scene of Yoda disarming the emperor in the film, we would have a better understanding of Sidious' power. (or lack of thinking )
Maybe Lucas didn't have the duel end with the Emperor being disarmed because he wanted the Emperor to look powerful. According to McDiarmid, the Emperor is the fastest swordsman in the galaxy (see the quotes in my signature).
Oh, Oh, and my dad can beat up Superman and Spiderman and all the X-men at the same time.
you like being cruel 
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If the duel is reclassified as anything, it should be Jedi vs Sith.
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sithrules70
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10/27/05 11:06am
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mhm interesting that would be 
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