Go-Mer-Tonic posted:CJedi72, I do agree that Lucas didn't realize that the classic trilogy had really been more about Vader than Luke while he was making it. As mentioned in the preceeding part of the article, it was Joseph Campbell who pointed it out to him. He had his outline for what would happen in the prequels regarding Vader and Anakin. At one point he wasn't sure they were going to be the same guy, but the story of the fallen Jedi was always there. Lucas says that when he set out to create a modern myth consciously, he found things very difficult, but when he just wrote his story without concsiously trying to place mythological aspects he found that a lot of them just grew spontaneously out of what he was doing. He felt the story started to almost write itself after a while, so it's no suprise that he would not realize where fate had taken things until after he had finished the classic trilogy. I still don't see this as a lie or contradiction. Because even if he had only noticed that after ROTJ, it was something that had always been there in the classic trilogy. So the story -has- always really been about Anakin, it just didn't hit Lucas until the half way point.
CJedi72 posted: This is where I disagree, cause Lucas could have easily made the PT story about the fall of the republic as the main story, and the characters are all a part of it.
CJedi72 posted:Instead he made the PT Anakins story with the fall of the republic tying into that.
CJedi72 posted:If he chose to do the PT as the the first idea, he could have basically done the same story as TPM, AOTC, and ROTS, but it would focus less on Anakin as the main player, just a player. He wouldn't have been locked into a ten year old Anakin in TPM, or have to take out key scenes in ROTS that didn't deal with Anakin (Rebellion, Force Ghost Issue, etc.)
CJedi72 posted:I think after the OT, Lucas could have gone two ways, and it probably hit him sometime after ROTJ, I could make this into a story of Anakin Skywalker as his rise, fall, and redemption
CJedi72 posted:You guys pick, what would you have rather seen, Macro or Micro?
Get_in_Gear posted:CJedi72 posted: [quote=CJedi72]You guys pick, what would you have rather seen, Macro or Micro? I'd rather watch a film about humans, than a film [i]about
CJedi72 posted: [quote=CJedi72]You guys pick, what would you have rather seen, Macro or Micro?
darth-sinister posted:People complained about Greedo shooting first, yet it's still there. People complained about Han stepping on Jabba's tail, yet it's still there. People complained about Jedi Rocks, but it's still there.
CJedi72 posted:And when were they ever released in the movies after 1997? It is a big difference of putting the movies on screen, and getting people to the theater, and selling only one version of the OT DVD in 2004, where fans have been drooling for 7 years to have it, and would probably take anything at that time. These were new movies, AOTC & ROTS, Lucas had to sell them to the public, the OT SE, though I hate the changes, I still bought it cause it was the only version out there, Lucas had me. The prequels had to give me a reason to go, I had to want to see them. If Jar Jar had the same role in AOTC that he did TPM, I would have never seen it, cause for me personaly, he ruins every scene he is in TPM. For the OT SE DVD, I would have bought anything in 2004, cause I had to have them. But see if Lucas ever would put out another edition of the OT DVD with more changes, I bet everyone who hates the SE now wouldn't buy them, cause they are waiting for the O-OT, and have already bought the 2004 DVD. You don't understand, for the all the people that hate the changes of the OT, and don't like the PT, the only way Lucas can get their money is release the O-OT. And that is a good part of the SW fanbase.
darth-sinister posted: People will buy anything with Star Wars on it. They bought the 1994 editions, the 1997 versions, the 2000 editions (which only a new thing at the start) and both DVD sets. Let's not forget the laser discs. People will again buy the films if he puts out new changes. If Lucas were able to put out the 3-D versions, they'll watch them or buy them. As to people going to see AOTC and ROTS, they were already going to go because it's Star Wars. Jar Jar had no impact. Spider-Man took in more money because people were waiting just as long to see him, as they were TPM. Add in the 9/11 elements, that the story takes place in NYC and features a heroic hero and you've got a good recipe for a hit. This summer had Batman Begins and Fantastic Four as major competition. All three did well, with ROTS taking the most money of the three films. War Of The Worlds did well, but didn't have as big repeat performence value as the others.
darth-sinister posted:Well, as has been said before, Lucas isn't interested in putting out the O-OT. It's been proven that he won't. He wouldn't let the original version of ANH be shown as a cinema presention of films that changed cinema throughout the years. Only the SE. He barred Sci-Fi, USA Network, FOX and other stations from showing those versions again. Only the SE's. Anytime the OT footage was shown in some type of deal, it was the SE's. I didn't get to see if he had the 2004 DVD's for when certain FOX stations were showing the OT, last spring. In late 2004, he said that he had the rights secured and no one will be able to undo what he has done. Or do a sequel. Or a remake. Hell will have a hockey franchise before the THX Editions see the light of day. Regardless of the money he could get off of it, he has no desire to release it. The closest anyone will get is what's in the "Empire Of Dreams" documentry, "From Star Wars To Jedi" and the bootleg copies. Along with their old VHS and Laser Disc copies.
