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Author Topic: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Darth-Natas 
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 4:33pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Sidious-3 posted:

I agree this thread is on it's last leg I believe
Darth-Natas posted:
Mace wasn't dead when he went out the window...but he was dead when he hit the ground. skull

Shattered and bloody, no doubt, as well.

Best to leave the fiction of Mace being alive from that scene to the writers of EpIII.1.

 

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Kirk_Kanos 
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 4:50pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Have to agree this has been dicused to death.

this topic is as dead as Mace.

 

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JarJarPlagueis  164 posts
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 4:53pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
OBIWAN-JR posted:
>>>> Also, please note that both Leoanrd_Shelby and Wrongway have resorted to personal derision. I know you're fair-minded enough to discipline them.

Neither post seemed to be directed at any one individual, JJP.

I rather thought that they had resorted to GENERAL derision....

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-JR happy


If a user can avoid violating the rules simply by not naming the person(s) he's attacking, then you may as well dispense with the rules altogether. I don't personally attack others with different viewpoints, either by name or "in general," and they should be held to the same standard.

 

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Annina  200 posts
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 9:39pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Mace Windu lives!!!!! shock doh! liarliar laugh

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 11:12pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Get_In_Gear posted:
But, as Sin has been trying to point out - the EU authors have a new mandate from Lucasfilm.
Gone are the days when Palps and Fett can be brought back from the grave ad hoc.
Only in the Infinites series can authors be so bold, any resurrections will be purely non-canonitical.


Obviously some people don't read. rolling_eyes

 

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JarJarPlagueis  164 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 2:25am Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Crazy_Old_Kermit posted:
It's just that I have a feeling that a lot of people who believe Mace is alive believe that Bail is in fact dead.

Now due to the "logic" of people on this board, if you don't see a body then the person might be alive.

Yet, we never see Bail's body, so the guy still might be alive.

It's just that the line of thinking "no body, not dead" carries with it many flaws and plot holes. Seriously, as strange as it is to have someone maybe come back, it's really just cheap and ignorant storytelling.


Bail might have survived. It entirely depends on whether or not he was an Alderaan at the time? While the lack of a body isn't conclusive proof that a character is alive, it leaves open the possibility.

This is not the case for characters whose bodies we see, such as Maul or Dooku. They're gone for good. pig

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 12:34pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Bail Organa is dead, because he was on Alderaan. It's said throughout the film. Leia was to take Obi-wan to Alderaan to see Bail. Commander Willard confirms that Bail was on Alderaan.

 

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bad4good 
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 12:44pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Speaking of Bail....how is Leia a princess if Bails not the king? How can he be married to the Queen and not be king?

 

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Greedo_forever  535 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 1:00pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
bad4good posted:
Speaking of Bail....how is Leia a princess if Bails not the king? How can he be married to the Queen and not be king?


...maybe Bail was elected King?

Or maybe on that planet princess is just a special title for a woman with particular political powers. As in Machiavelli's "The Prince": which isn't about a specific feudalistic role, but a concept, a series of guidelines for someone in a position of power.

 

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bad4good 
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 1:36pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Possibly. Has there been any official explanation about why Leia is a princess though?

 

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Sidious-3  604 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 1:40pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
We are getting off topic guys... Oh well this thread is just going to crash and burn very soon

It shouldn't even be going on right now!

 
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Get_in_Gear  5101 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 2:36pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
bad4good posted:
Speaking of Bail....how is Leia a princess if Bails not the king? How can he be married to the Queen and not be king?



Bail cannot be king because he is not of Royal bloodline.
You can't just marry into the royal family and become a monarch.
That's how it works on Earth, and that's how it works in a GFFA.
By marrying the Queen of Alderaan, Bail adopts the title of Prince Consort.
Leia is a princess, however, because she is officially adopted as Breha and Bail's daughter.
As the Queen's daughter, she is in line for the throne as a rightfull heir and earns the title of Princess.

 

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JarJarPlagueis  164 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 3:25pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Get_in_Gear posted:
bad4good posted:
Speaking of Bail....how is Leia a princess if Bails not the king? How can he be married to the Queen and not be king?



Bail cannot be king because he is not of Royal bloodline.
You can't just marry into the royal family and become a monarch.
That's how it works on Earth, and that's how it works in a GFFA.
By marrying the Queen of Alderaan, Bail adopts the title of Prince Consort.
Leia is a princess, however, because she is officially adopted as Breha and Bail's daughter.
As the Queen's daughter, she is in line for the throne as a rightfull heir and earns the title of Princess.


According to the ROTJ novel, the Organas are indeed royalty. But I guess that's the evil, lying EU that has no basis in anything? silly

 

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Get_in_Gear  5101 posts
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 4:00pm Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
JarJarPlagueis posted:

According to the ROTJ novel, the Organas are indeed royalty. But I guess that's the evil, lying EU that has no basis in anything? silly


Did I say Bail wasn't royalty?
He is the Queen's Prince Consort - part of the royal family.
I just said he was never a monarch.
And things cut from Lucas' scripts are obviously cut for a reason, if something makes it into a novelisation before the film is refined, then that's tough luck.
The Kenobi dialogue was cut.
Kahn chose to keep it.
That's his perogative.
Shame it doesn't reflect Lucas' finished film...

Besides, none of this off-topic banter has brought Mace back to life yet.

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 12:16am Subject: RE: So Mace Windu isn't Dead when he gets pushed out of the window...
Prince constort is royalty, but not by blood. But by marriage. Leia is adopted by Breha, which is why she's Princess.

 

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