Author Topic: Clones already knew about Order 66?
The_Porridge_Boy  144 posts
Registered: Dec '01
23989_Grievous
Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:50pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
Ok just wondering...how about the attack on Grevious in Clone Wars? Do you think their genetic makeup made them not able to kill him? I'm not by any means saying Grevious wouldn't be as talented as he was if he had Clone Troopers not intentionally trying to take him down. But perhaps he was better off knowing that he could put on an act.

 

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ItchyRedSaber  240 posts
Registered: May '04
6533_Count Dooku's Lightsaber
Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:51pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
"Jango Fett to Obi-Wan: "They'll do their job well."



Jango seems to have known sidious whole plan way back when, hes the clones host yet he takes off to hang out with dooku and the droid army as well.



He knew they would turn but whats even more amazing is the fact that had Mace not killed him in the arena he would of ended up fighting against his own identical clones that day...... now thats something to think about

 

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cheese_boy  3160 posts
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Date Posted: 5/25/05 2:28pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
To be fair, as weird as that would be I reckon Sidious would have 'arranged' his death very soon after his survival.

 

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DarthDischarge  166 posts
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 5/25/05 8:43pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
He knew they would turn but whats even more amazing is the fact that had Mace not killed him in the arena he would of ended up fighting against his own identical clones that day...... now thats something to think about



Whos side would he have fought on? If he wasnt killed the jedi could of used one of the clones to spy on dooku since they all look like jango.

 

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DarthFarted  119 posts
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 5/25/05 8:52pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
Would be strange to see 3 jangos shooting at the real jango who was shooting at himself

 

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poodookoo  839 posts
Registered: Feb '04
6332_25th Anniversary
Date Posted: 5/31/05 5:00am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
THE OS HAS UPDATED THE DATABANKS!!

From Commander Gree's entry:

"Clone Commander Gree, designation 1004, led the Elite Corps stationed on Kashyyyk during the Clone Wars. He served under General Yoda...Though a faithful commander who carried out Yoda's orders, Gree was ultimately loyal to the Republic. When Chancellor Palpatine enacted Order 66, Gree understood it was a worst-case scenario contingency -- the Jedi had betrayed the Republic, and were therefore dangerous enemies of the state.
Gree attempted to open fire on Yoda from behind, taking out the Jedi Master before he had time to react. Gree poorly underestimated Yoda's perception. Before he could squeeze the trigger on his rifle, Yoda flipped up and backwards out of the field of fire, and decapitated the commander with one quick swipe of his lightsaber. "


 

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poodookoo  839 posts
Registered: Feb '04
6332_25th Anniversary
Date Posted: 6/1/05 2:48am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
Well, due to the lack of response, I guess that settles it, then!

 

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PhoenixFirewall 
Registered: Mar '04
Date Posted: 6/1/05 3:10am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
So basically, Order 66 (and every other order for that matter) was a predefined (programed) set of paramaters that the clones would unquestioningly obey. Nothing personal, just "doing thier job well." This is what they know. Hell, they probably would have all walked strait into lava if it was an order. At any rate, this order was programed into them upon creation, or sometime prior to them being ready for use.

 

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diggler152 
Registered: May '05
8122_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 6/1/05 3:28am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
I don't think order 66 specifically meant kill "Jedi" it is probably meant to kill their generals regardless of who they are, which would keep the leaders of ones millitary from revolting with the clones. They follow without question, so as soon as a higher order comes they have to follow it. Notice that Palpatine made the Jedi generals.

 

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Elsongs  60 posts
Registered: May '05
23686_Yoda
Date Posted: 6/1/05 3:14pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
PALPATINE [via hologram]: Commence Order 66.

CLONETROOPER: You mean the Sweet & Sour Pork with Black Bean Sauce?

PALPATINE: No, you fool, the OTHER #66.

CLONETROOPER: Oh, the Jedi killing one. Sorry, it's almost lunchtime and I...sorry, my master.

 

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Vaderdj420  59 posts
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 6/1/05 4:46pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
I think thats part of the deception. From the beginning the clones were "programmed" to execute Order 66 upon order... no hesitation. The Chancellor had this engrained in thier heads. Thats why Cody gave Obi Wan His lightsaber back... the book even has a little joke after that part, Cody say's something to the effect of " You could have executed the Order before i gave him the lightsaber back!" So obviously no one was aware except for the Emperor when the order would be given... making the lie span decades

 

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D12501 
Registered: May '05
Date Posted: 6/2/05 9:34am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
So what were orders 1-65?

I know who most people would want to get it in order #1.

Order 37, If the door's locked move on to the next one. (This turned out to be a really bad idea)

Order 67 Guard the film and don't let anyone steal any of the master copies. (Apparently never implemented)

 

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Darth-Trepidor  596 posts
Registered: May '05
24221_Anakin and Obi-Wan
Date Posted: 6/2/05 9:55am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
Doesn't Cody call Palpatine "My Lord"? How did he KNOW Palpaint was a "Lord" I would guess Order 66 is already programmed into them.

 

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Master-Nodrog 
Registered: Jun '05
6600_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 6/4/05 11:16pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
Thought I'd throw this out there....

If Sidious was behind the whole plot to bring Anakin into the Sith (I'm guessing it started with Plagueis creating Anakin from metacloriens, while Sidious was his apprentice. Sidious took it from there...), then when the clone troopers were created, there must have been a set of pre-programmed orders. Sidious already knew Anakin would turn to the dark side, as he planned all along (there is more than enough evidence there), and could effectively create order 66 to destroy all jedi. All jedi being everyone except himself and anakin or darth vader. Probably the latter.

As far as the pre-programming debate, if they could tamper with genetic structure removing flaws and what not, making them perfectly loyal, perfect soldiers etc. etc., they also could have a preset set of instructions/orders. The kaimineans probably didn't care about the order, as the prided themselves on the genetic perfection and mental structure of their creation. They probably also didn't alert the jedi to this, since they thought the jedi already knew, as the man who placed the order was once one. Clones were completely loyal to Republic. Possibly programmed into them to follow any of Sidious order's also, as the whole Sifa-Dyas is pretty shady.

One last thing, if you watch semi-closely, most of the troops just nod to each other. The order was not just issued to everyone's personal hologram reciever(?). They reacted to a nod. To me that kinda seems like everyone knew and was just waiting for it to happen. There didn't have to be any sort of Jedi against the republic type background for the order, just a straight: Kill all jedi order.

Haha... just realized how long this is... sorry!

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 6/4/05 11:21pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
It was send out by both holotransciever and by standard comlink.

 

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