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tkingsley_84 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 5/21/05 7:42am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Ok, back on the first page I disagreed that the clones were "pre-programed" in the genetic sense to understand order 66. RolandofGilead said it said in the novelisation that it was imbedded in their minds before they were hatched. Which page was that? Anyone? -----signature----- "Luminous beings are we... Not this crude matter..." - Master Yoda "I love the threads with no sympathy for Mace... I can't wait for him to die." - BothofUS "Are you threatening me, Master Jedi...?" - Darth Sidious
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Darth_Tassel Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 7:59am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Two things: There were MANY orders likely programmed in. I wouldn't be surprised if there were orders for all sorts of contingencies. Plus, what Order 66 is is never really mentioned specifically. Like another member said, it could simply mean to kill your generals - not Jedi specifically. To me, this seems like a very understandable request. To prevent a military coup (after all, some JEdi do turn to the dark side ), there was an order put in place to allow the senate to regain control of any errant armies. The clones were subjected to the most thorough training imaginable, from the womb. To obey orders is their sole purpose - to them, it's just another order.
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tuddlemo Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 8:01am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Any idea what order 1-65 are? or beyond 67?
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DexterJettster28 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 8:21am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Order 23: Wash your hands before dinner. Order 49: Stop, drop, and roll. Order 55: A penny saved is a penny earned. Order 57: Do, or do not. There is no try. Order 64: Don't shoot til you see the whites in their eyes. Order 68: The only thing you have to fear is fear itself. Order 96: Disregard all 95 previous orders, take a break, and have a smoke.
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Yoda-I-II-III-V-VI Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 9:03am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	All I know is The Bible Revelations 13:18 mentions 666 as being the number of Satan. So perhaps this could be what Lucas could have meant about order 66. I can only surmise it would be easier to give order 66 as opposed tor order 666. This being said if Lucas means this to be the case i.e. it is easier to give order 66 instead of order 666 my conclusion is that order 66 would mean that the Clone Army had to obey Palpatine/Darth Sidious which to me is Star Wars answer to Satan. Hope this explains
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Bacon164 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 9:12am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	"They'll do their job well. I'll guarantee that." "Always a pleasure to meet a Jedi." Wouldn't it be funny if Jango knew? -----signature----- Like a falling leaf to the bottom of the sea there she goes there she goes. My mentor Andalite_Bandit taught me this but it is too long to quote here so I can't tell you.
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YYZ-2112 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 5/21/05 9:18am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	That's a great question! It also makes you wonder if it was programmed into their subconscious. If it was already programmed in, then the Kamino cloners knew that the Jedi were to be wiped out. And if that's true then why the warm welcome to Obi-Wan in his investigation or the charade concerning Syfo-Dias ordering the clones. I suppose the only logical explanation is that they simply follow orders and have no sense of themselves or the morality of decision making. They must have been programed with Order 66 after being received by the Republic. That's probably the safest way to ensure there's no loose ends or discovery of the order's existance. -----signature----- "You were right about one thing Master. The negotiations WERE short." "Story is about principles, not rules. Anxious, inexperienced writers obey rules. Rebellious, unschooled writers break rules. Artists master the form." Robert McKee
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lrdmonarch Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 5/21/05 9:26am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Without the Expanded Universe, you're gonna put two and two together and understand that it was Sidious and Tyranus that set up the Jedi. The order was in the clones from the beginning and they weren't following the orders of the Republic, but of the Sith. Not one of the commanders said "yes, Chancellor" or "Yes, sir." No, each of the commanders said. "Yes, my lord..." Without hestitation, these were stormtroopers following the orders of the Emperor. -----signature----- "It's treason, then." - Chancellor Palpatine Imperial CSI : The search for Jedi
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JANGOANTILLES Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 9:37am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	the order had to subliminal,otherwise u risk the jedi somehow reading a clone's mind and finding the clones are hiding something besides the clones seemed to legitimately have a bond with the jedi they even give OB1 his saber back-they didn't know as to the Kamino cloners thing i think Siddious only had to bribe a small handful for 66 and then had Maul pay a visit and "disappear" them -----signature----- Last Knight of the Acolytes of Revan "You don't eat a barve like that all at once!" "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Only a Jedi deals in absolutes.
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tony_sak Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 11:06am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Or.. the fact that these are freaking clones. They don't have emotions and all that shit. They could serve with someone for 50 years, and if they were ordered to go shoot that person, they aren't gonna get mad and sad and say no. Obviously the Kamino don't keep up to date with Politics, they are in the freakin ocean and crap. They care about money. It's like a hitman. You hire someone to kill someone, the hitman doesn't ask why, he just does it. Labry. of Evil. Basically, if you think about it. SiFo ordered the clones, Dooku killed him. Told Sid about it and Sid gave him orders on what to do. Dooku was like hey, SiFo put me in charge of these clones now, heres a list of orderes to implement to the clones, and heres some extra money to keep quiet. Just think. The thing inside your head is called a brain, try using it, you might impress yourself.
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Sith_Dreamer Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/21/05 11:10am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	I think it is programmed into them, but if it was, it probably was for Palpatine/ the current Chancellor only. That would be because something like this could happen: Jedi: Yes Commander, you have your Order. 66 of them, to be exact. Clone: raises blaster -----signature----- "Yes Lord Sidious...would you like fries with that?"- General Grievous
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Get_in_Gear Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/21/05 11:16am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Of course, the Clones know about Order 66. It is one of their directives. Some people are mistaking the Clones for robots which have been "programmed". They have been genetically engineered to be utterly obedient to their masters. But Order 66 is just what it says it is - an order. Like Order 1 - have a wash and a shave. Order 2 - don't forget your armour. (I presume ) They are just directives which they follow, not "programmes". -----signature----- http://boards.outerrimsieges.com/index.php
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The_Hero_of_Time Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 11:19am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Could Order 66 just have been a command to eliminate their current squad leader/head of operations personnel? I think it would make sense that way, but let me know what you think. -----signature----- And Shepherds we shall be; for thee, my Lord, for thee.
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JANGOANTILLES Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 2:01pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	but i think it could be like triggering someone in the Manchurian Candidate;people can be programmed just like machines -----signature----- Last Knight of the Acolytes of Revan "You don't eat a barve like that all at once!" "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Only a Jedi deals in absolutes.
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DUGGY Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/21/05 2:02pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	but i think it could be like triggering someone in the Manchurian Candidate;people can be programmed just like machines that works, let's shut this thread down. lol -----signature----- http://outerrimsieges.com/
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