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CieSharp Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:19am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	In the 2nd episode of the Star Wars ANH radio drama portrays Leia helping the people of Altair with their rebellion. This same event is portrayed in the early issues of Dark Horse's "Empire series". A Rebel spy must impart information to Leia, and according to the radio drama, he says "Information absorbed by hypnotic imprint". Maybe Order 66 is a similar device? Perhaps even completely subliminal ala Zoolander :P Also, what I'd like to know is how do the clones know not to shoot down Anakin or his Jedi Starfighter? Was he always exempt from Order 66, or did Palpatine pardon him to clonetroopers off-screen? -----signature----- Duel of the Fates - Translation and Purports from Sanskrit http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=11461050 Star Wars and Hinduism \| http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=11178560 http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=11384555
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Sith-Bendu Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:28am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	I haven't read the entire thread, perhaps someone else has mentioned this... My opinion is that Order 66 wasn't necessarily an order to kill the Jedi - that would have been too obvious - as someone else pointed out, wouldn't someone have gotten suspicious of the Jedi ordering clones & then "programming" them to kill Jedi? I think Order 66 was essentially a failsafe - basically, something that was "programmed" in to the clones to ensure the "legitimate" chain of command (chancellor & senate) would be maintained were there ever a mutiny / coup attempt / etc. The clones seem to take day-to-day orders from their Jedi commanders - the fact that they're Jedi is really irrelevant - to the clones, they're the commanders. I think the clones were trained to know that order 66 would be issued by the chancellor directly if there were a mutiny / coup - from watching the movie we all know that Palpatine plays the line to everyone that the Jedi tried to assassinate him and take over the senate. Kind of like the failsafes in place over the nuclear weapon systems in our world. Anyways, don't think this order was against the Jedi per se, but rather just an inconspicuous way for him to wipe them out since he knew how it would all play out. -----signature----- ==+------- JC Secret Sith Society -------+== Join the darkside! PM me for details. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dammit Jim! I'm an old lurker, not a newbie!
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Sith-Bendu Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:31am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Also, what I'd like to know is how do the clones know not to shoot down Anakin or his Jedi Starfighter? Was he always exempt from Order 66, or did Palpatine pardon him to clonetroopers off-screen? Well, if you go by my theory above, it's quite simple... We never see Anakin directly commanding clone troops (until he goes dark). He's not a commander, he's not part of the coup attempt, so they never target him. -----signature----- ==+------- JC Secret Sith Society -------+== Join the darkside! PM me for details. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dammit Jim! I'm an old lurker, not a newbie!
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jvberggren Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:33am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	if they knew, then why would cody return obi his lightsaber? -----signature----- Luigi Castigliane: "This is the girl! " Adam Kesher: "Hey, that girl is not in my film! " Vincenzo Castiliane: "It's no longer your film." *Mulholland Dr. (2001)** JZA of TF.NET Wu-Tang
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Sith-Bendu Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:35am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	if they knew, then why would cody return obi his lightsaber? He returned it before the order was issued. Edit: Fixed blockquote -----signature----- ==+------- JC Secret Sith Society -------+== Join the darkside! PM me for details. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dammit Jim! I'm an old lurker, not a newbie!
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Darth_SHOT Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:36am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	i don't know if this as been said before but acording to the ROTS Visual Dictionary, there as been some rumours that new generation arc troopers (commander cody, bacara, bly, etc etc etc) have been subject to "intensive deep-core progaming". from this we can extrapolate that palpatine aka Darth Sidious gave orders to "implant" on the new generation arc's order 66. that means that the order's parameters were already know to the troopers but they didn't knew they knew, if you catch my meaning... when the order came thru something clicked on their minds and they knew what to do. -----signature----- There is a faction of meatbags called the Sith. They want what any rational meatbag would want - the power to assassinate anyone
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DUGGY Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:38am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	if they knew, then why would cody return obi his lightsaber Good point, but in the book Cody say's something to the effect of why did'nt the order come before he returned Obi's saber. -----signature----- http://outerrimsieges.com/
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:39am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Dooku erased Kamino. If you don't like the eu, then Sidious alone ordered the Clone Army in the name of Sifo-Dyas, who he had killed. If you like the eu, then Palpatine had Sifo-Dyas place the order and Dooku killed him. Both Sith Lords made sure that Order 66 was part of their genetic makeup. It's obvious that they already knew what Order 66 was. This does NOT mean that it had to be part of their pre-'programming'. Yes it does. The novelization for ROTS and the Visual Driectory confirm that it was part of their genetic makeup. According to Commander Cody, he's known about this since before he was hatched. Every single Clonetrooper knew about it. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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JediPrettyBoy Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:41am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	They were brainwashed, programmed, or whatever you want to say. The point is that Cody genuinely was a loyal friend to Obi-Wan who, when given Order 66, just reacted involuntarily as if any fond memories about Obi-Wan had been erased. -----signature----- "They scream and they cry. Much as your doing now." -- Dr. J. Crane/Scarecrow
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srgntpep Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 10:49am Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	"isn't it weird the kaminoans don't recognize him as being a senator or chancellor or something." How many senators would you recognize?
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CameroFett18 Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:25pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	I think they learned it on Kamino, it was just a "just in case" order, if the jedi ever did actually betray the republic -----signature----- "Uh,Boba, rood eht so-heeck." "Master who?" "I was recruited by a man named Tyranus on one the moons of Bogdan." "Boba Get on Board!" "Don't Move Jedi"
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Robu-Hachi Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:27pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Do the clones even have emotion towards this? Or are they just genetically programmed to obey all orders. -----signature----- and a powerful ally it is....
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CameroFett18 Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:29pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	they have no emotions, they are basically droids, but human. they only live to serve -----signature----- "Uh,Boba, rood eht so-heeck." "Master who?" "I was recruited by a man named Tyranus on one the moons of Bogdan." "Boba Get on Board!" "Don't Move Jedi"
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cheese_boy Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:48pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Knowing how smart Sidious is, Order 66 would have been worded in a way that looked fairly innocent IF the Jedi had decided to analyse the Clones' combat programming. Hooray! it's not like movie makes this...er.../obvious/ or anything... -----signature----- Don't **** with a Jedi Master, boy. To disagree with three-fourths of the British public is one of the first requisites of sanity. - Oscar Wilde http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war.html don't you dare, don't you flan in the face
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jaime_fett Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/25/05 1:49pm Subject: RE: Clones already knew about Order 66?
	Order 66 was pre-programmed into every clone. One could also assume Palpatine had several other Palpatine only commands built into them. Also, master sifidias never lived long enough to actually order the clones. Dooku killed him and used his name to order the clones.
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