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NeoBaggins
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6/6/05 3:08pm
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Which makes it even more aparent that having Anakin be the reason, or something, makes the dreams and need to save her more powerful. He's having these dreams yet he doesn't see that he is the cause. I mean, why show these dreams and press the issue of Anakin wanting to save her when there is NOTHING to save her from.
How does he save Padme from willing herself to death? If this is what he saw in his dream, Lucas has accidentally created a paradox.
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sithrules70
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6/6/05 3:12pm
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i think she is so selfish.she is sad,her husband is an animal now,her world is over,i mean...her,her,her,she.
cmon ¡¡¡ she had twins to live for and she had her family to live for,i just cant even imagine how heart broken her mother,father and sister where 
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darth-sinister
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6/6/05 11:51pm
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Which makes it even more aparent that having Anakin be the reason, or something, makes the dreams and need to save her more powerful. He's having these dreams yet he doesn't see that he is the cause. I mean, why show these dreams and press the issue of Anakin wanting to save her when there is NOTHING to save her from.
How does he save Padme from willing herself to death? If this is what he saw in his dream, Lucas has accidentally created a paradox.
Yoda: "The cave. Remember your failure at the cave."
The Force warned Anakin of what was going to happen, now that he slayed Dooku and took one step closer to the Dark Side. The problem is that Anakin didn't get the message. Instead he became emotional and lost sight of the meaning behind his visions. Luke does the same thing, years later. He has a vision of himself fighting Darth Vader and becoming him, after slaying him in cold blood. Using his emotions. This is why Yoda used it to try to get him to stay. And this is what Luke remembered when he was about to kill Vader, in ROTJ.
If Anakin didn't learn control, he would lose the one thing that mattered most to him. He didn't get it, but Luke did.
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neutralsideforce
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6/7/05 3:03am
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That was the only think Anakin could break from her...
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dat_dude
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6/7/05 3:19am
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It is called Star Wars cheese.
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RedHanded_Jill
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c'mon, there is no way for anakin to know that? all his other experience with dreams would lead him to believe what the dream literally told him. luke and the cave experience was meant to show luke that he had the potential of vader inside him. not that he was gonna kill him.
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Minela
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She was destined to die. It plays like a Greek tragedy. Edepis (however you spell it) was destined to kill his father and marry his mother. Now if his father had never tryed to kill him, the prophecy would never have come true. Now, same with Anakin, if he would have just let the dream go, and not tryed to save Padame, she would still be alive. But he couldn't do that, prophecies are tricky.
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Jedi_Master_Grover
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Because she is weak, thats how Lucas views women
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RedKitten
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Padme is broken hearted over how her husband is no longer what he once was, and how her children will have to grow up in a corrupted government.
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Jedi-Queen
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Someone has said it before, but there is a difference b/w
willing/wanting to die and not having the strength to no longer
fight for life. I didn't mind the whole thing, the way she died,
but I would have rather the line about "will to live" be left
out so we could draw our own conclusions about it.
I would've just assumed the birth during her weakened state
after the choke did her in.
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6/8/05 12:26pm
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Which makes it even more aparent that having Anakin be the reason, or something, makes the dreams and need to save her more powerful. He's having these dreams yet he doesn't see that he is the cause. I mean, why show these dreams and press the issue of Anakin wanting to save her when there is NOTHING to save her from.
How does he save Padme from willing herself to death? If this is what he saw in his dream, Lucas has accidentally created a paradox.
And what a paradox it is!
Anakin's dream is the reason why he went to the dark side and his downfall contributes to Padme's death. Anakin might not have gone down the dark side if it hadn't been for the dream. The dream was a self fulfilling prophecy. Someone MUST have planted that dream in his mind or else we have a paradox of immense proportions.
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RebelScum77
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6/8/05 1:42pm
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All the characters in Star Wars follow mythological archetypes, and Padme's death certainly follows one. Lucas has to have done it on purpose, as a visual director. Anakin and Padme's relationship has been described by Lucas as in the vein of "chivalric romance." And those stories are full of women who die of broken hearts. Most notably "The Lady of Shalott". She was Elaine, the wife of Lancelot. When she found out of the affair he was having with Guinevere she was so devastated she died of a broken heart. King Arthur had her body brought back on a boat down the river Thames, she is pictured covered in flowers. There's definitely a thru-line with the visual imagery of her funeral. The dead "floating" Arthurian woman covered in flowers is a common image in Pre-Raphaelite art, from Waterhouse's "The Lady of Shallot" to Millais' "Ophelia." So this question can be answered both from a visual and mythological standpoint, as well as why clinically she would die of a broken heart- Anakin's betrayal, and her own guilt.
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joeypstyle
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6/8/05 3:04pm
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i like what rebel scum said.
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Why does Padme's heart get broken?
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RebelScum77
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You know, I almost can't believe Lucas had the stones to do this in the first place. After all the myriad of complaints and gripes about the intentional "courtly" nature of Anakin and Padme's romance, Lucas kills her off the most courtly way imaginable- a broken heart.
Even I, who always bought the courtly thing, thought she go out in a much more dramatic and logical fashion. But this is perfect, and teeters on brilliance if you ask me.
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