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Drworm2002 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:52am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Oh my...he is talking about the killing in ROTS... TrueJedi...I bet your they kind of guy to go see Schindler's List and say...did Steven really need to show so many Jews getting killed. I mean...that's not entertainment... -----signature----- You got c*****r farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy - blond hair, blue eyes. And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God. -----What's a Nubian?-------
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:56am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Ah, no, I'm talking about a fantasy film here, not a piece of history. Either way, I'm seeing the film and being better prepared for what I'm going to see. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:07am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	TrueJedi...I bet your they kind of guy to go see Schindler's List and say...did Steven really need to show so many Jews getting killed. I men...that's not entertainment... Exactly. The statements imply "I am really looking forward to the entertaining (read- bring me happiness) scenes of all of the Jedi men and women being murdered...but, the kids? That isn't good." As if the other murders are somehow "happy entertainment". This movie is tragic. Key word. Innocent people are going to die. How many people gasped in disbelief when they showed the children being slaughtered in "King of Kings"? None? They even show the Romans sticking swords into cribs, for crying out loud. Oddly, no crying about it there. Yes. Death is tragic. Whether it's men, women or children. Everyone knows this to be the case. -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:09am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	I can repeat this as often as you like but it really helps if you actually read my response. And that is, this is a fantasy film and the other stories are based on real events. Now, if you are done, I know I am. But thanks for the laughs. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:12am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Ah, I see the reasoning. If it's based on real events, then it's entertaining. If it's fiction- then it's not entertaining. Got it. -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:14am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	You seem confused. If it's real events, then it's basically re-telling the story. Whether it's entertaining or not is up to each person. A fantasy film can be changed to suit the story teller. Now, hopefully I've made it clear enough so that you can go back to the topic and stop asking me questions. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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Holocron_Collector Title: Moderator Emeritus Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:22am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	I for one am over-friggin-joyed that a SW movie is actually upsetting people. Even people who haven't seen it yet!!! You've done well, Lord Lucas. Finally. Incidentally, my paper had an article about a guy who's wearing a Vader costume to opening day, it also said that he is bringing his 6 year old. I just had to laugh and shake my head. It amazes me how people will just look right past a PG-13 rating. I can't wait to read about all of the pissed off people who bring their kids to this movie and have them traumatized for life. Idiots. HC -----signature----- Northern Exposure Fans! Visit and Join my NX Discussion Forum! http://mrminnifield.proboards58.com/index.cgi
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:25am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Right, a PG-13 rating is there for a reason. But I've seen people drag their kids into "R" rated films and expose their kids to far worse. Some people are messed up. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:32am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Bear in mind that I'm not asking you questions, and I'm not really directing my posts in your direction- but just in the direction of anyone who seems to have some gripe with a story. If it's real events, then it's basically re-telling the story. Well, in all actuality, it can be argued that the biblical narratives such as the flood story, the passover, and the nativity aren't real events. A lot of people view them as fiction. Even if they are real events- the films don't have to actually show the Romans gigging infants in the crib- but they do. Why? To tell a story. Whether it's entertaining or not is up to each person. Granted, but I tend to see people who find entertainment (as in, "bring me fun") in any form of murder as a little out there in the twilight zone. A fantasy film can be changed to suit the story teller. Yes, and the other works brought up, ie Schindler's List, King of Kings, etc. could have also been changed to leave out the killings. After all- someone wrote the screenplay, and was in charge of what was filmed, and what wasn't. What was shown; and what was implied. But they didn't? Why? It's a tragic story-telling. It's a cinematic way of arousing emotion. Tragic emotion. That is the purpose. I can understand why people would be upset at the murder of children. What I really can't understand is why they are simultaneously okay with the murder of men and women. Or, for that matter, why they are okay with the murder of "sand people" children. Anyway, you're right, in the end. The people who complain will complain- and the people who don't won't. Back to the topic at hand. What was it? Darth Maul versus Jar-Jar, I believe. -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:43am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Well, in all actuality, it can be argued that the biblical narratives such as the flood story, the passover, and the nativity aren't real events. Let's leave that one for another debate. Even if they are real events- the films don't have to actually show the Romans gigging infants in the crib- but they do. Why? To tell a story. Well, it's a critical aspect of the story but you don't actually see Romans stabbing children and you shouldn't. That's over the top in presenting the story. Plus, how many parents are you going to get to allow their actor child to be stab, even if it is a movie? Yes, and the other works brought up, ie Schindler's List, King of Kings, etc. could have also been changed to leave out the killings. After all- someone wrote the screenplay, and was in charge of what was filmed, and what wasn't. What was shown; and what was implied. But they didn't? Why? It's a tragic story-telling. It's a cinematic way of arousing emotion. Tragic emotion. That is the purpose. You can't have a film about killing Jews without showing as much as was shown in Schindler's List. It's a key part of the story. My only objection is when a matter is not key to the story yet is included anyway. I can understand why people would be upset at the murder of children. What I really can't understand is why they are simultaneously okay with the murder of men and women. Or, for that matter, why they are okay with the murder of "sand people" children. Children are innocents. Men are not. Women should also be afforded a degree of protection from such violence in films. Perosnally, it just bothers me. Others may disagree. As for the sand people, they are not human and are more like cruel beasts that only understand stark brutality. I have no more emotion for them than I do for fire ants. Again, I don't want to take away from the topic so please carry on. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:53am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Let's leave that ... Ruencrow holds up hand to interrupt Ah tu tu tut! one f... Runecrow holds up hand to interrupt Ah tu tu tut! ...Back to thread. -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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Runecrow Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 4:03am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	One thing I feel compelled to say, and the only reason I say it is because I understand that a person's reality is very much more sensitive than fiction- I don't believe those narratives (ie, the passover, the nativity, etc.) are fiction. Just not wanting anyone to feel "poked" by what may, or may not, have been read into my statement. -----signature----- Walks on his own, with thoughts he can't help thinking; Future's above; but in the past he's slow and sinking. Caught a bolt of lightning: cursed the day he let it go.
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Drworm2002 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 4:03am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Children are innocents. Men are not. Women should also be afforded a degree of protection from such violence in films. Ok...Enough of this crap...Children are not innocents just becuase they are kids. In the middle east you have children straped with bomb and blowing themselfs up...soliders are killing children to protect themself. Men are not?? Men sometimes are. If I was fighting a war in Germany I would not kill ever German male I come accross...that is wrong. Wow, you views of the world are really screwed up. -----signature----- You got c*****r farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy - blond hair, blue eyes. And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God. -----What's a Nubian?-------
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 4:08am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	Your comprehension of what I'm saying is screwed up. Do you really want me to sit here and go into great detail as to the differences between men, women, and children and why children should be protected? Children strapping on bombs? No, it's the adults that are taking advantage of their innocence to use them as tools for death. Can't you understand something that simple? And who said that you should shoot every German male? What kind of crazy statement is that? You only shoot those that are trying to shoot you. Enough with the kooky-talk. Let this thread go back on topic. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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denkmal Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 4:21am Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter Whats your opinion..,,,NOW THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
	What I don't understand is you can kill 100's of people in a movie, but you kill a dog and all hell breaks loose.
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