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Padme Bra Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:27pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	I haven't seen it yet but I get the gist and I for one am glad GL didn't hold back when it came to the younglings. Face it, it's implied anyway. It was implied the moment we saw the kids in AOTC. It might as well be addressed in some fashion or it would have left a huge question mark at the end. As for him being redeemed, he's Darth Vader. I don't want to think of him as some poor misguided kid who got tricked into being bad. He's evil, right to the end. He doesn't draw the line at kids or planets or kittens. He's freaking Darth Vader.
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Jyro-Kyrn Title: Former So. Colorado CR Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:29pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Please! I've seen the movie (charity screening, Denver) and it isn't gritty horrible or all that menacing. It is what it is. It is SUGGESTION. If you want to complain about something horrific in this movie then talk about Dooku. The younglings portion is VERY mild. The SUGGESTION is so short lived that you let that scene go rather quickly. Especially in light of young padawan Lucas going down. That is much more difficult to watch than Ani in a dark room with a couple of younglings. Read into it as much as you can stand and no more. He leaves it so that you can imagine as much or as little as you can handle. It's not tasteful. Killing children never will be. But it isn't heartwrenching or gruesome. Now, the real question is why not take the young and un-indoctrinated ones and just use them like Sids used Ani. Without training they won't grow to Jedi status. With Sith training they might be valuable. I see it more of a plot hole than a travesty or horror. But let's face it. It is sad. They are VERY little children. With the first death you know the rest were screaming and crying. To think that he would lack heart enough to continue killing them shows that Anakin is dead. Only the monster of Vader remains. Oh yeah, and it's just a movie. He didn't really kill those kids. They're fine. Really. -----signature----- Jyro Kyrn "Boring conversation anyway..." Not dead yet. Just really busy.
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NeoBaggins Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:30pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	His blade is never seen touching a youngling. Lucas son, who is older than the children in the council room, dies by gunfire. It is the scene in the trailer where Bail is going "Noo". I always wondered what was happening there. -----signature----- You hear that? That's the sound of inevitability. You hear that? That's the A train. You hear that? That's the sound of a thousand terrible things heading this way.
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solo77 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:32pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	His blade is never seen touching a youngling. You kinda see him killing them when Obi watches the holographic recording -----signature-----
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Jyro-Kyrn Title: Former So. Colorado CR Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Those aren't younglings. Those are padawans. Bid difference between a teenager and a six year old sentimentally. The teenagers deserve it -----signature----- Jyro Kyrn "Boring conversation anyway..." Not dead yet. Just really busy.
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SweiitConcorkill Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	<<Now, the real question is why not take the young and un-indoctrinated ones and just use them like Sids used Ani. Without training they won't grow to Jedi status. With Sith training they might be valuable. I see it more of a plot hole than a travesty or horror.>> You obviously don't understand the meaning of "plot hole" since this isn't one. There is no hole in killing every Jedi. Do you not understand why the rule of two exists? Leaving the younglings or the padawan learners alive would worry both Vader and Sidious. Plus, if you want to take over where someone once was empowered, you don't leave anyone alive. You kill everyone. Otherwise you will eventually have a rebellion on your hands. Unfortunately for the Emperor, he gets one anyway from his Senators. -----signature----- Proud Member of the 'Kool-Aid Brigade' Revenge of the Sith? OH YEAH!
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solo77 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:35pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Padawans, ok my bad, i thought there were some younglings in there too. -----signature-----
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Philosopher1701 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:35pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	That is very cool that Lucas filmed his own son dieing in an honorable fashion. -----signature----- The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it. ~Bertrand Russell
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:36pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Ok, so you're workin on the pretense of self-defense? So you're saying that if men kill in self defense, they are no longer innocent. No, I'm merely saying that it's not OK to kill every German you come across. But if a child picks up his dad's gun and shoots their attacker, he is still innocent? Or the wife? This makes no sense, man... I'm talking about little children, not kids big enough to consciously pick up a gun and shoot someone. We don't live in the 50's anymore... "women & children first!" doesn't apply nearly as much as it used to.. It's not just the '50's, it's a universal belief from long ago. Hell, technically you could argue that the boys from Columbine were still children, but I don't think there's a person on earth who would say they were "innocent" Those were teenagers who were quite deranged. Again, I'm talking about small children who aren't even old enough to get into to see ROTS. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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EwokThatCried Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:39pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	But these children are old enough to be trained as Jedi and they carry weapons. What did you think happened to these younglings? They must be a part of the Jedi purge. -----signature----- "Sir Carrie Fisher's Nipple" of the Knights of The 3SA Sarcasm Table George Lucas is a NO voter Overpowers means overpowers Gone, consumed, lost, murdered, ceased, destroyed, twisted, evil Outer Rim Sieges - http://boards.outerrimsieges.com
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SweiitConcorkill Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:41pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Those younglings are a major threat. Probably the biggest threat to Sidious and Vader. If they survive then they could easily continue with their training somewhere, along with a burning desire to get the Sith back. The Sith are well aware of this and feel that for their own self preservation that ALL Jedi must die (not just be captured). So those Jedi children are 3 foot tall killing machines in the making. -----signature----- Proud Member of the 'Kool-Aid Brigade' Revenge of the Sith? OH YEAH!
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signal24 Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:42pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	They couldnt be indoctrinated as Sids did to Anakin because of te rule of two balh blah bla.. besides they were future corupt jedi and had to die. -----signature----- "It's only after we've lost everything that we are free to do anything." - Tyler Durden
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Darphus_Mon Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:50pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...whoo, excuse me. HAHAHAHAHHAHAA ok, fun time over. By the way, has anyone noticed (even the bad reviews) few critics have said anything negative about the youngling slaughter?
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TrueJedi Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/17/05 2:55pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	But these children are old enough to be trained as Jedi and they carry weapons. They don't carry real light sabres, just toys. What did you think happened to these younglings? They must be a part of the Jedi purge. Yes, but we just as easily could assume it happened and not actually have Anakin pull a light sabre on them. -----signature----- You do not truly know someone until you steal their wallet. I'm the originator of the title, "EP III: Revenge of the Sith", so give me my accolades. 1977: May The Force Be With You 1999: May You Have Enough Midichlorians To Use The Force
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DarthVogel Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 5/17/05 3:16pm Subject: RE: The Youngling Slaughter - What's your opinion now that you've seen it?
	Killing children is not necessary. The Younglings had to die, otherwise there would have been too many (potential) Jedi still left. It would have defeated part of the story that was already set in the original trilogy. Luke is the last of the Jedi.
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