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TrueJedi
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1/13/06 2:15pm
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I think Padme's transformation in ROTS was not only necessary to the continuity of the OT but also brilliant in the writing of ROTS. Thank you, George.
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Lyvia
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1/17/06 12:21am
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And I will say this again THE WOMAN HAS NO REASON TO BE DEPRESSED. She hasnt lost nearly as much as Obi Wan, Yoda, Luke, or Leia did yet they stuck around when the going got tough. Even if someone is really depressed and they decide to check out it is for a reason SHE HAD NO REASON! She did not die to save her children, she did not die by bringing them into the world, she did not die of a broken heart! That is the main problem, she dies for no reason and gives up for no reason. Padme suffered from nothing more than her husband turning out to be an idiot which she should have already known. Everyone else in this saga fights while Padme just dies. Everyone else in this saga actually has a reason for dying and its not some last ditch effort to erase her like she never existed. As someone who has been depressed and has been around many depressed people THEY DONT DIE FOR NO REASON IN 5MINUTES! You dont become suicidal in 5minutes! If she had killed herself it would have been better slightly.
She is not a good mother
She is not a good role model
Yes she was suppose to be a role model stop trying to pretend the Padme of the first 2 movies wasnt suppose to be a role model
SHe gives up on life for no reason and leaves others to clean up her mess.
If Lucas was going to write off the Padme character he should have just had her be a prostitute who Anakin had a fling with.
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PMT99
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1/17/06 3:29am
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Lyvia posted:
And I will say this again THE WOMAN HAS NO REASON TO BE DEPRESSED.
NO REASON? Padme has just witnessed Anakin turn evil and tried to kill her, the Republic which she has stood for has fallen into the crapper, and she just found out that the man she elected Supreme Chancellor is a Sith Lord who has been behind everything including the invasion of her home planet, the death threats on her life, and her husband turning evil.
Padme has EVERY reason to be depressed.
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CJedi72
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1/17/06 5:01am
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TrueJedi posted:
I think Padme's transformation in ROTS was not only necessary to the continuity of the OT but also brilliant in the writing of ROTS. Thank you, George.
Now we'll just wait for the ROTJ SE in 2007:
Luke: Leia, do you remember your mother, your real mother?
Leia: No.
Now we have continuity...
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Greedo_forever
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Lyvia posted:
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If Lucas was going to write off the Padme character he should have just had her be a prostitute who Anakin had a fling with.
That's over simplifying it.
If it torments you so much, just put your fingers in your ears at the part where the medical droid informs the audience "that she's given up the will to live" and mentally replace it with "she is dying from physical and emotional trauma".
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RebelScum77
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SHAD0W-JEDI posted:
PS - A ways back, someone said that NO ONE fares well in ROTS. I have to disagree. I think Obi Wan gained a great deal of "gravitas" because of ROTS. In him, we see the Jedi at their best. I think Yoda comes off well, although his retreat from Sidious was, IMHO, another slight GL misstep. Bail is certainly an admirable character. And while this view is... controversial... on the Board, I also think Mace handled himself with class and style...*S*
I disagree with you here. Obi-Wan, while doing some pretty difficult things in the face of tragedy, and clearly the hero, also showed himself to partially blame himself for letting his love of Anakin blind him to what was really happening. Many people think Yoda gave terrible advice to Anakin, he tried to bring out the Sith by leaving Coruscant, a plan which backfired, and then he failed to kill Sidious later on. Alot of people think Mace was a jerk and did the totally wrong thing by treating Anakin with disdain, and not allowing him to come arrest Sidious, which could have given the whole thing a different outcome. Bail is the only one who comes through pretty much unscathed. But this is all Lucas' intent, the Jedi are not without blame in this whole thing, though that's as hard for some people to swallow as Padme losing the will to live. But the point is that everything we thought we knew in TPM gets turned upside down, characters act in extraordinary ways, for good or evil. The untouchable Jedi crumble from within, the strong-willed Senator's world completely and horrifyingly blows up in her face, and the worse part is that she's to blame for some of it. So the Jedi fall, and Padme dies. The Galaxy that everyone thought existed actually never did.
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