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Anakin, you idiot!
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sithrules70
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12/8/05 1:04pm
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I can understand for example the love Mother Theresa of Calcutta had for people...is this a similiar love the Jedi are suppose to have for all beings?
on the spot zara.
but luke marrying has nothing to do with attachments.all he has to do is let go when the one he loves has to go.he already learned to let go so he should not have a problem
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LadyZaraMarta
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12/8/05 1:09pm
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Ah, so Anakin could not let go...he saw Padme's death....but by his own actions did he not cause her death?
...and THAT's another thing...
What about that vision? Could that had been Sith influenced? Could Palpatine cause Anakin to have that vision?
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sithrules70
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12/8/05 1:11pm
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palpatine causing the vision or not has been discussed many times without any conclusive answer
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LadyZaraMarta
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12/8/05 1:19pm
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Oh! Ok...I didn't know that...well for my .10 I think Sids caused it.
He was to blame for everything else! 
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Dezdmona
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12/8/05 1:20pm
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LadyZaraMarta posted:
Ah, so Anakin could not let go...he saw Padme's death....but by his own actions did he not cause her death?
...and THAT's another thing...
What about that vision? Could that had been Sith influenced? Could Palpatine cause Anakin to have that vision?
There were two visions - one where Padmé was begging Anakin for help and the second where Obi-Wan was telling her to hold on...
As Anakin was seeking more control over Padmé's fate, the vision changed.
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sithrules70
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12/8/05 1:21pm
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great point Dez...think about it i will 
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LadyZaraMarta
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12/8/05 1:32pm
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That is very true, Dezdmona.
Amidala was calling for Anakin to help her....
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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12/10/05 3:29pm
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Well Anakin wasn't really the smartest with that kinda stuff...obv Palp was evil.
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Lyvia
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12/14/05 7:37pm
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Anakin has to be the biggest idiot in cinema history, people are deceived by lies everyday ie. Europe in WWII and the US with GWBush, but there is more work put into it than just
Palpatine: "Anakin join the darkside"
Anakin: "No"
Palpatine: "Anakin join the darkside"
Anakin:....umm"No"
Palpatine: "Anakin join the darkside"
Anakin: "Ok why not"
Come on use a brain cell chosenone
And Luke's love for Leia and Han is nothing like Anakins obsession for Padme, take note ANAKIN MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE for his supposed love for her. That's gone beyond love and is going into obsession; there's also the point that if Anakin had every thought about his wife's feelings he would never have killed the children.
As for Luke all he did was rush to his friends safety and nearly got himself killed..he didnt get anyone else hurt in the process, plus he learned immediately from his mistake. It took Anakin 21years(thats how old I think the twins are in ROTJ) to realize his mistakes. What Luke does in ESB is close to what Anakin wanted to do in AOTC when he wanted to screw everything and save Padme. There's certain levels of stupidity that can be sympathized with, but going on a massacre isnt on that level.
I dont think Leia and Luke are similar to P*A, Leia and Padme had similar upbringings Leia's upbringing was even more stressful seeing as how she is in the middle of a war, and sees her planet destroyed and becomes a leader in a war. Luke had a more stable upbringing than the other 3 but upbrining cant be the excuse for what Anakin does; people need to stop blaming his stupidity and mistakes on others and place the blame on the person it belongs with...Anakin. As I have said many times, Anakin had every advantage; plucked off a remote desert planet, goes to the bit city of Courascant which is now his home, fulfills his dream of becoming a jedi and gets the girl of his dreams and is also a war hero.Thats not such a bad life.
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millenniumteacher
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12/14/05 8:14pm
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Look, as a Sith Anakin thought he could have the best of both worlds. He could have his wife and kid on one side without hiding it and use his force powers. Obviously he used them better when he thought only of himself anyways, so having anything he wanted, being selfish wasn't far from his personality. That is why he turned. So he could save himself from the heartbreak of loosing Padme. Fear leads to the darkside...
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bad4good
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1/6/06 8:33am
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Not only is Anakin a a complete idiot in Revenge of the Sith, but also in the classic trilogy as well. Dig this....Obi Wan and Yoda say they want to hide the children somewhere where the Sith will not sense them. O.K......well Leia Grows up to be A Senator on the same planet the Sith are based on. Sidious never sensed her? Then why did the Jedi worry? Also...Anakin was directly with Leia for half of A New Hope and didn't sense anything? IDIOT!
Is this a plot mistake? I mean why say they had to hide the childrens presence from the Sith only to dangle one of them right in front of their noses? Since neither sensed it anyway what were the Jedi worried about? Also...how does Vader sense the force is strong with Luke{Death Star battle} but can't sense it in Leia? What....are girls not strong with the force now? The fact they are twins means absolutely nothing?
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Fat_Bird
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1/6/06 11:29am
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bad4good posted:
Not only is Anakin a a complete idiot in Revenge of the Sith, but also in the classic trilogy as well. Dig this....Obi Wan and Yoda say they want to hide the children somewhere where the Sith will not sense them. O.K......well Leia Grows up to be A Senator on the same planet the Sith are based on. Sidious never sensed her? Then why did the Jedi worry? Also...Anakin was directly with Leia for half of A New Hope and didn't sense anything? IDIOT!
Is this a plot mistake? I mean why say they had to hide the childrens presence from the Sith only to dangle one of them right in front of their noses? Since neither sensed it anyway what were the Jedi worried about? Also...how does Vader sense the force is strong with Luke{Death Star battle} but can't sense it in Leia? What....are girls not strong with the force now? The fact they are twins means absolutely nothing?
What great points. Further proof that GL didn't give a rat's ass if things made sense plot-wise.
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darth-sinister
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The Jedi were being cautious. As it turns out, Leia is safe from both Sith Lords. Also, Luke used the Force during the Battle of Yavin 4. Leia did not use the Force. That is why Vader did not sense her. Same with how Obi-wan, Qui-gon and Maul couldn't sense each other. Why Qui-gon didn't sense the Force in Anakin. How Dooku couldn't sense Obi-wan on Geonosis. How the Jedi couldn't sense Palpatine. Once someone uses the Force in front of another Jedi/Sith, they can sense them easily.
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bad4good
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1/6/06 12:32pm
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Welll...why were they worried about infants using the force? Vader can sense a tremor in the force when Obi Wan arrives on the Death Star....so wouldn't one of his OWN OFFSPRING send a tremor into the force?
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AnakinBrego
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1/10/06 7:23pm
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Come on who'd justify kiling everyone else and their mother to save their woman. Anakin is just a selfish jerk!  He never went to the darkside, he just never fully developed as a human being, the idiot, the bantha poo doo!! There's no way to justify what he did, nothing, even if George tries to!
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