Author Topic: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
Alpha-Red 
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 12/15/05 7:14pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
I'm still wondering though...if either Yoda or Obi-Wan decided to join the Rebel Alliance, how would that have changed things? In hindsight, it definitely makes for a more poetic plot that they run off and hide instead of waging this guerilla war against the Empire, but if they had done so, would that have been different?

Palpatine did say that if any Jedi survived, the galaxy would be plunged into endless civil war, and I can imagine that Yoda's name alone could have swayed dozens of systems to join the Alliance the same way Dooku did with the Seperatists. Maybe Yoda just wanted to avoid the kinds of atrocities committed by both sides during the Clone Wars?

 

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vaders_cape 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 12/15/05 7:31pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?

They were both still vulnerable to Palp's Order 66, they needed to go into hiding until the heat was off so to speak. Plus, what could 2 tired, somewhat shell-shocked Jedi do against Palp and his new order and a vengeful young Vader? The twins were their "last hope" - Yoda and Obi-Wan needed to stay alive for the next round. Obi-Wan needed to keep an eye on Luke.

Going into hiding, apart from a chance to recover and reflect, was a long-term strategic move.

 

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Icestar63 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 12/15/05 8:08pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
yoda and Obi-wan went in to hiding because the empire was growing too powerful and Palpatine's power was probilly growing too powerful over the years and there were too many clone troopers. Luke was the only one who can stop the empire and Palpatine because his power can grow very powerful.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 12/15/05 11:39pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
It would've been harder for the Alliance to gain sympathy early on, if they were active. The populace needed to see through the lies of the Sith, before they could join the Alliance and throw their support behind Luke.

 

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Richard-Drahcir 
Registered: Feb '04
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Date Posted: 12/16/05 3:54am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
If Yoda and Obi-Wan were to join the Alliance soon on it would spell certain doom for the Alliance.

The rebel base on Hoth is stormed by a huge garisson of troops and Vader. As soon as Palpatine finds out that Yoda and/or Obi-Wan is working with them he wouldn't stop until they were all destroyed - rebels and jedi. The Alliance would be wiped out in its early days, all because Yoda and Obi-Wan joined them.

So it's a better idea for the Jedi to keep out of these affairs for now.

 

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PMT99 
Registered: Nov '00
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Date Posted: 12/16/05 5:11am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
I think that it would spell certain doom for the Empire if Yoda and Obi-wan had join up with the alliance because the Emperor never really considered the Rebels to be a real threat until Luke came along and blew up the Death Star not to mention that he's the reason why Vader turned good again and brought an end to the Sith Empire by killing the Emperor. If Yoda and Obi-wan were to join up with the rebels, more people across the galaxy would support the alliance which will cause the Emperor to lose his grip over the galaxy and in turn everyone will be against him which will allow the 2 Jedi to finish what they started in ROTS....namely to destroy the Sith.

 

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Dj_Stevie_C 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 12/16/05 5:55am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
Why didn't Yoda goto bespin with Luke?

Where exactly would he have sat in the Xwing? On Luke's lap??? tongue

 

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Veloz 
Registered: Aug '04
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Date Posted: 12/16/05 8:56am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
impunity posted:
A better question is why did Yoda just give up when not for a single second did it appear that Palpatine had the advantage during the course of their duel? When the force lightning explosion knocks BOTH off the pod, Sidious is left clinging for dear life, and Yoda bounces down to the base of the Senate floor with ease and then runs off for no apparant reason. If I've been fighting someone I genuinely wanted to beat, and had allready proven that I could injure/hang with them, I'm not just going to hightail it out of there when their dangling from a Senate Pod, barely even able to hold on.


Acording to the book, stormtroopers were coming, so he had to flee

They went into hiding because the had new priorities: Luke and Leia. If they died, who would train them? .. besides, i'm sure with the jedi hunt going on all over the galaxy, it was just the smartest thing to do... they had to regroup, plan and wait.

DJ_Stevie_C: now ur making me think of Yoda doing a lapdance laugh

 

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marc_craigwb 
Registered: Sep '05
Date Posted: 2/2/06 12:10am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
i agree,yoda had the foresight to realise that at least for now the battle was lost,by training the twins as children or joining the rebels they would just alert the emperor to their existence.so they did the only thing they could do ,hide and wait for fate to lend a hand.

 

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ObiWanIsTheOne 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 12:24am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
With all due respect, don't lump Obi-Wan in the "failure" department. Yoda failed, Obi-Wan did not. No matter how many times Anakin fans like to blank out the duel, Obi-Wan clearly beat Anakin and left him for dead. He didn't flee or run away. The reason he didn't go after Sidious was because he thought Yoda had taken care of him. By the end of the movie, it was too late to fight Sidious again. Sidious would now double his guard knowing Obi-Wan and Yoda were out there somewhere. Not to mention, someone had to watch over Luke.

 

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kyoshiro-kenobi 
Registered: Sep '03
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 12:32am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
Exactly! Obi-Wan defeated Anakin and left him, surely thinking he (Anakin) would be dead in a few minutes. It would have been suicide for the 2 of them to immediately go back and fight the Emperor. Every clone trooper was already on the hunt for them, and no doubt soon every bounty hunter would be too.

It would have been foolish for Yoda to attempt to attack Sidious after falling to the Senate floor because Sidious had the high ground, he could attack Yoda the entire time that Yoda was trying to get back up to Sidious' level. Plus Yoda seemed to me to be somewhat stunned by the fall.

 

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Extreme_yoda 
Registered: Nov '02
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 1:08am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
the way i see it is that i believe after the duels ....both obi wan and yoda finally understood the prophecy of ending the sith

 

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Darth_Jaytastic 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 1:38am Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
impunity posted:
A better question is why did Yoda just give up when not for a single second did it appear that Palpatine had the advantage during the course of their duel? When the force lightning explosion knocks BOTH off the pod, Sidious is left clinging for dear life, and Yoda bounces down to the base of the Senate floor with ease and then runs off for no apparant reason. If I've been fighting someone I genuinely wanted to beat, and had allready proven that I could injure/hang with them, I'm not just going to hightail it out of there when their dangling from a Senate Pod, barely even able to hold on.


This bothered me too. When the future of the galaxy AND the future of your religion hang in the balance, you better get your butt up there and fight!

 

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Obi-2_Kenobi 
Registered: Mar '04
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 1:33pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
yoda was definitely chasing palpatine all over, and it is my objective opinion that had he not fallen he could have won, but sidious ended up with the high ground, a bunch of pods to toss down, and a bunch of troopers arriving. Where anakin destroyed himself by continuing after he is in a bad position, yoda mor wisely uses restraint.

 

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EH_Pilot 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 2/2/06 2:13pm Subject: RE: Why did Yoda & Obi-Wan go into hiding?
The novelization says that Yoda lost before he ever started the fight.

He couldn't win, no matter what he did.

 

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