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farrellg
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11/3/05 12:19pm
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Is why in the hell didnt Maul shoot it at Obi-Wan??
Maul probably doesn't know how to use force lightning. When Obi-Wan was dangling over the pit would have been an ideal time to use lightning if Maul had the power. The best explanation is that Maul hasn't learned lightning yet.
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darth-sinister
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r8hitman posted:
Yeah, another question that could be brought up....
(if this were a TPM forum  ) Is why in the hell didnt Maul shoot it at Obi-Wan?? 
EDIT:
I guess this was before Lucas decided to allow someone to steal Sidious' trademark move. 
I don't think Sidious taught him how to do it, yet.
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Count_DoodooKuku
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11/3/05 1:38pm
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Thanks for that explanation, Sinister.
Re Maul, he could have easily just swiped at Obi with the lightsaber he had.
He was prideful and gloating, that's all. Too bad...for him.
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yoshifett
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11/3/05 1:44pm
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Dooku never gets a chance apparently. If you didn't notice, Anakin kicks the **** out of him in this duel.
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ryno1234
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11/3/05 2:16pm
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Lightning seems to be only effective if you don't know it's coming. Obi-Wan and Anakin were quite familiar with it in Dooku II, and if all you have to do is hold a sabre in front of it, why try. Plus, the ship was going down, so it's not like they had a lot of time.
I really don't believe that Yoda suffered from the hit. It was a bluff. Remember what Luke said when he met Sidious: "Your overconfidence is your weekness." Yoda probably sensed that right away. So let his head swell right away, and then show your hand, which will create fear.
In the grand scheme of things, was lightning really an effective weapon? Not really. Not one jedi death can be attributed solely to lightning. It preserved a tie in Yoda-Sidious, and got Sidious killed in ROTJ.
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Master_Ti
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yoshifett posted:
Dooku never gets a chance apparently. If you didn't notice, Anakin kicks the **** out of him in this duel.
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yoshifett
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Master Ti! Where've you been?
By the way, I've seen (and used) quoted for truth or QFT more times on this board in the last week than I can count. Maybe this is a sign that people are getting along better. Or just conforming.
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Master_Ti
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Hi Yoshi 
I've been around, mainly in the SWC or YJCC.
Thought I'd swing back by here though lol.
But you made an excellent point, Dooku never had the chance to unleash his sith powers on Anakin. Anakin held the upper hand that ENTIRE battle
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Ruthio
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like sinster posted earlier Douku was suppose to test Anakins saber skills. Im sure if Douku wanted to he could of done it, and ended the duel. But, Douku fooolishly beleived in his master to much, and he was eventually out manuvered by skywalker. Im sure if douku really really wanted to kill Anakin, im sure their are a number of ways he could of gotten the time to fry him.
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yoshifett
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11/3/05 9:28pm
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Master Ti 
Glad you could stop by.
O.k. I'll give you that Ruthio, but you have to admit, Anakin dominated Dooku with a saber.
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yoshifett
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darth-sinister posted:
"Palpatine has told Dooku. 'I have somebody who I think will be a great Sith Lord and I think we can get him to join us. But we need to test him. So we're going to setup a situation where you fight him. If he gets the best of you, then I'll stop the fight and he'll have passed the test. If you get the best of him, then we'll let him go, and we'll let him stew for a few more years until he's ready.' But behind it, obviously, is Palpatine's real intention: If Anakin is good enough, Anakin can kill Dooku and become Palpatine's new apprentice. But he didn't tell Dooku that."
--George Lucas, The Making Of ROTS; Page 41.
That's why he didn't try to fry Anakin and Obi-wan.
Brings up this question though: Wouldn't Dooku know about the rule of two, since Yoda and Mace knew about this?
And why would force lightning be prohibited, it doesn't kill a single person directly (that business with Mace doesn't, doesn't count), so why couldn't it be used, at least to hold Anakin off?
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jedi_jacks
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11/3/05 10:38pm
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being one of the only two living sith in the galaxy, who's gonna stop them from changing up their order as they see fit. but i dont think that was their main reason.
sith always confront each other, they dont believe in passive stuff unless they absolutely hav to. dooku has to face anakin, or he'll be less of an asset and more of a liability. you want an aggressive sith apprentice, not some safe and sound one.
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brook_33
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Obi-wan was never in danger from the lightning in AOTC, and Anakin learned his lesson. Both were prepared for whatever kinds of lightning Dooku was about to leash out on them. Dooku is no fool, he knew this. Sure he was decieved, but he is no fool. Unfortunately, Obi was not prepared for a force choke/grip/throw across the room/crushed by catwalk power. and anakin was not prepared to be kicked once in the film and two more times which were cut.
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darth-sinister
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11/3/05 11:08pm
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yoshifett posted:
Brings up this question though: Wouldn't Dooku know about the rule of two, since Yoda and Mace knew about this?
Palpatine told Dooku that he was going to do away with it, after the Jedi Purge and the Clone Wars were over. It would begin with Anakin, who would be like Asajj Ventress.
yoshifett posted:
And why would force lightning be prohibited, it doesn't kill a single person directly (that business with Mace doesn't, doesn't count), so why couldn't it be used, at least to hold Anakin off?
The point is to fight Anakin until the boy wins. If he wins, Palpatine will step in and stop the fight. If Dooku wins and Palpatine is too disappointed, Dooku has consent to kill Anakin. Otherwise, the boy lives for the time being.
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sithreaper
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Using lightning ect requires time & concentration. If Dooku would have stuck his hand out & tried to fire lightning at Anakin, the chosen one would have lopped his hand off. Dooku managed to throw obi wan because he briefly bought himself some time. To use these force powers in a duel is basically a sign of desperation, in ATOC Dooku pulled if off because Anakin left himself wide open, later against Yoda, Dooku was showing off.
Another theory however is that Anakin overpowers people though the force. For example In the new Dark Lord book (by the writer of the ROTS Novel) a jedi attempts to use the force to summon a object to himself however through the force Vader is simply preventing him from doing it, so overpowering is Vaders connection to the force.
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