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DARTH_CUDGEL
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12/16/05 5:48am
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Yes, Palpatine & Vader will sure survive Death Star's destruction, but in your opinion how will finish Endor's Battle?
Can the rests of the Imperial Fleet, under the lead of Palpatine, defeat Rebel's Fleet?
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mastersith69
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12/16/05 6:13am
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it is very hard to say why dooku did'nt light up anakin again, maybe anakin did grow more powerful over time and dooku just stayed about the same with his power. looking at aotc dooku owned them all together. but in aotc obiwan was just a knight and anakin was only a padawan, but in rots obiwan is now a master and anakin a knight so i can see where dooku would have trouble fighting easily again and plus obiwan and anakin were able to work together instead one by one like in aotc.
i think dooku if anything revealed to much of himself in aotc to the jedi when he fought them by showing off his power. so then when we get to rots the jedi know what they are up against and take there time and work together. but when it is just anakin and dooku alone anakin taps into his rage to get even he just becomes to powerful for dooku.
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Count-Tyranus
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12/17/05 2:56pm
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Master Kenobi was no problem for Dooku. A mere annoyance.
As for Anakin, he didn't use lightning, or any other force power, as to not damage his master's prize.
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Simonp27
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Third, Sidious uses lightning against Luke because he can. Luke never knew that lightning was a weapon of the Sith and therefore Sidious used it as a sort of "special surprise" for Luke.
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I have often though it odd that Obi Wan and Yoda didn't mention to Luke at some point - "hey those sith lords have this trick with lightening so be warned!"
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I-poodoo
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The whole point of the trap was to test Anakin's willingness to go beyond the constraints of Jedi doctrination.
Dooku's strategy was first to remove Obi-wan from the picture, he succeeded there. Then to begin working on converting Anakin; thus Dooku saying: "I sense much fear in you, Skywalker, yet you do not use it."
What I'm saying is the point of that duel wasn't eliminating Anakin, so using something as potentially lethal as sith lightening would be counter productive to what Dooku was trying to accomplish there.
Plus both Anakin and obi-wan were on guard if Dooku had tried it. the only chance he really had to use it (IMO) was when he was eliminating Obi-wan's involvement in the duel, and then if it's easier to just hurl him across the room rather than frying him why bother with the Sith Lightning when he was leaving himself open to his true target not but a few feet away from him.
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darth-sinister
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1/14/06 10:06am
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Simonp27 posted:
I have often though it odd that Obi Wan and Yoda didn't mention to Luke at some point - "hey those sith lords have this trick with lightening so be warned!"
Maybe he did know about it and choose to go ahead without it anyway. Course, Luke did run off before his training could be complete.
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mjerome3
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Dooku wasn't powerful enough during this go around. He'd grown stronger in the Force and all Dooku could do was be on the defense.
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darth-sinister
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Why would you say that Dooku's less powerful this time? Anakin being stronger, that's understandable. But Dooku being weaker?
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Master_EdgeCrusher
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1/27/06 9:32am
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Anikan was more powerful than any. YOu stil have to learn how to harness the power of the force! That is why he lost his hand the first time. But then there would not be a second time for the future dark Lorf of the Sith!
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MystikalMaceWindu
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1/27/06 6:04pm
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darth-sinister posted:
"Palpatine has told Dooku. 'I have somebody who I think will be a great Sith Lord and I think we can get him to join us. But we need to test him. So we're going to setup a situation where you fight him. If he gets the best of you, then I'll stop the fight and he'll have passed the test. If you get the best of him, then we'll let him go, and we'll let him stew for a few more years until he's ready.' But behind it, obviously, is Palpatine's real intention: If Anakin is good enough, Anakin can kill Dooku and become Palpatine's new apprentice. But he didn't tell Dooku that."
--George Lucas, The Making Of ROTS; Page 41.
That's why he didn't try to fry Anakin and Obi-wan.
And it pretty much goes that same way in the Labyrinth of Evil novel. slight difference, is that the Emperor says, well, if you beat him, then we know he's not worthy of being a Sith Lord.
but, Emp tells him, not to worry if Anakin beats him, he will let no harm come to him... yeah, right... it's the way of the Sith to betray each other.
All of them do it. Dooku tried to make a deal with Obi-Wan (although, it also does seem Dooku was doing that to serve Obi-Wan to the Emperor), and Vader tries to make a deal with Luke, Emperor uses Vader as bait for Luke, Emperor throws out Dooku like bait for Anakin to prey on.
But reading the last bit of the Labyrinth of Evil, I was almost yelling, Dooku, don't be stupid, Emperor's going to put you on a fishing hook and dangle you in front of Anakin.....
So, Dooku, was holding back. If you read the book, he first was playing/toying with Obi-Wan and Anakin, but then he realized that the two Jedi were fighting seriously, and so he had to fight harder, but Anakin was too much for him. And also, Dooku was still holding back a bit, fighting to NOT LOSE. But when Anakin has Dooku's head between two sabers, and then Emperor says Kill him, he pleads to the Emperor, "we had a deal! you promised me immunity!" And Anakin doesn't really understand, and then he lops off Dooku's head....
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ZamWesell44
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Baiting is true, but by ROTS Anakin had surpassed him in power. He was focused in that fight, unlike when he fought Kenobi. I know in the novel Dooku remarks on how Anakin just kept getting stronger and stronger, and had unlimited amount of power, while Dooku was getting weaker and weaker.
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CieSharp
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1/28/06 12:34pm
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In the ROTJ novelization, it says that Luke made some attempt to deflect the lightning but was unsuccessful.
He threw his lightsaber aside, so he had no defense. As strong as he was, he couldn't block the lightning with his hands like Yoda.
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brook_33
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1/28/06 10:42pm
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Anakin's not a complete fool. If Dooku tried using lightning against him, Anakin would have deflected it with his saber.
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yoshifett
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He's too busy getting pwned.
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HookLineAndSinker
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1/29/06 12:10pm
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He didn't zap Anakin because Sidious uses the lightning later in the film. It would take away from the moment in the office when Palpatine unleashes on Mace. Of course the scene in AOTC already did take away from that power, but what's done is done. For storyline purposes, it suits the movie better if we are not reminded that Dooku had that power too.
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