Author Topic: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
farrellg 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 10:16am Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
Anakin had the ability to become stronger than Palpatine. However, he was much less powerful than the Emperor during ROTS. Anakin hadn't realized his full potential yet.

 

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DarthJuggalo 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 11:32am Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
farrellg posted:
Anakin had the ability to become stronger than Palpatine. However, he was much less powerful than the Emperor during ROTS. Anakin hadn't realized his full potential yet.


I agree. The way Sidious tossed those senate pods showed me that he is the most powerful in RotS.

 

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ZamWesell44 
Registered: Sep '03
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 12:55pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
i think in a lightsaber fight he would have been more than a match for Sidious or Yoda, he wouldn't win a senate pod throwing contest, but he was a level 9 just like those 2, and the way he beat Dooku who could compete with Yoda, makes me think he could beat anyone in ROTS, not years later, expect for his former master.

 

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brook_33 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 12:56pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
Yeah, if you compare throwing Senate Pods 3 at a time while using the Force to make the one you're standing on hover, versus throwing little debris at windows, I'd say Sidious is stronger there.

 

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The_Chibi_Kiriyama 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 3:51pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
farrellg posted:
Anakin had the ability to become stronger than Palpatine. However, he was much less powerful than the Emperor during ROTS. Anakin hadn't realized his full potential yet.


My nitpicking finally got me to the point I was waiting paitiently to see- farrellg agreeing with me! This is what I've been saying the entire time. HAD Anakin survived Mustafar he would have been stronger. Not during Mustafar. Not at the Jedi Temple. Not fighting against Mace (had he done so). IF he would have survived with his limbs intact Palpatine would have been beaten by him had he been so inclined. I'm so glad about hearing this that I decided on something...

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One million hugs for everyone!

Sorry, just a bit giddy from all of this...

 

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farrellg 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 6:08pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
I'm glad we could agree on something, The_Chibi_Kiriyama.

I think Palpatine proved that even his lightsaber skills are superior to Anakin's. Anakin didn't kill the Jedi in the Temple as quickly as the Emperor killed the posse. Anakin was fighting two Jedi in the hologram (Cin Drallig and a Padawan), one at a time. Both of them blocked at least two of his strikes. He didn't kill them in one move each the way the Emperor did with the posse. The posse are better than the Jedi in the Temple because Mace took the best swordsmen available with him (as the novel and OS confirm). Anakin couldn't even kill inferior Jedi as quickly as the Emperor killed the posse.

 

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ZamWesell44 
Registered: Sep '03
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 6:45pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
Sidious could not have done any better against Dooku, he could have beat him but im not sure he could have done it like that. I don't know how Cin, Shaak Ti, are inferior, and Agen Kolar is not.

 

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farrellg 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 6:47pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
ZamWesell44 posted:
Sidious could not have done any better against Dooku, he could have beat him but im not sure he could have done it like that. I don't know how Cin, Shaak Ti, are inferior, and Agen Kolar is not.

The Emperor could do better against Dooku because he did better against the posse than Anakin did against the Jedi in the Tempoe. Cin Drallig and Shaak Ti are inferio to Agen Kolar because the OS and novel say so.

 

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brook_33 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 7:16pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
The_Chibi_Kiriyama posted:
[quote=farrellg] HAD Anakin survived Mustafar he would have been stronger.


He did survive Mustafar. tongue

 

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The_Chibi_Kiriyama 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 8:49pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
True; but by then he was already Vader and definitely not strong enough to challenge the Emporer, much less fight him as an equal.

 

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brook_33 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/27/06 10:00pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
Right. I was just being annoying.

 

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Master_Mace_Windows 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 1/29/06 8:22am Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
By ROTS, NO.

If we were on the OT and there was Anakin unsuited, THEN, YES.

 

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brook_33 
Registered: Dec '03
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Date Posted: 1/30/06 3:43pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
yes

 

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mjerome3 
Registered: May '00
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Date Posted: 1/30/06 3:51pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
I'm starting to think that Anakin was on the verge of becoming more powerful than Palpatine. But the thing that gives Sidious the edge over Anakin(during ROTS) is his knowledge of the dark side. Anakin is still an apprentice, still learning, still making progress, not where he needs to be yet. Sidious is way past that point and has been for years. It's very ironic that a Sith Master and his apprentice can share the same amount of power, but yet the master is beyond the apprentice in terms of advanced knowledge and that's why he's the master after all.

 

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farrellg 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/30/06 7:28pm Subject: RE: Is Anakin really more powerful than Palpatine?
mjerome3 posted:
I'm starting to think that Anakin was on the verge of becoming more powerful than Palpatine. But the thing that gives Sidious the edge over Anakin(during ROTS) is his knowledge of the dark side.


I think you're right. Anakin had the potential to be even more powerful than the Emperor. However, as of the timeframe of ROTS, he still had a long way to go before surpassing Palpatine. The Emperor's advantage is that he has better saber skills and a much greater knowledge of the dark side, such as generating lightning.

 

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