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DUGGY
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11/3/05 10:21pm
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so twelve Masters could set it all straight ? 
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ticopuma
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11/3/05 10:23pm
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12 *powerful* masters
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FallenKnight88
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DUGGY posted:
so twelve Masters could set it all straight ?
Did you not see what two masters (Yoda/Obi-wan) were able to do? They took out an entire battalion without breaking a sweat! Multiply that power by 6 (and add the hundreds already in the temple) 
Sure the odds are still stacked against them, but the playing field would be much more level.
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jedi_jacks
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11/3/05 10:26pm
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you forget that yoda is sexy
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DUGGY
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11/3/05 10:32pm
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FallenKnight88 posted:
DUGGY posted:
so twelve Masters could set it all straight ?
Did you not see what two masters (Yoda/Obi-wan) were able to do? They took out an entire battalion without breaking a sweat! Multiply that power by 6 (and add the hundreds already in the temple)
Sure the odds are still stacked against them, but the playing field would be much more level.
I did'nt see a battalion. a Batallion usaually has at least a thousand troops and officers. so that is a bit of an exageration. i only saw a dozen at best. and do you think they could hold them off indefinitely?. impossible. they were branded enemies of the state. there was no coming back from that.
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COMMANDER76
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11/3/05 10:35pm
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The Council would have faired much better than routine Jedi and younglings IMO...
But IMO only Mace/Yoda/Obi-Wan could have stopped Anakin.(sorry Kit)
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FallenKnight88
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I'm assuming they took out a battalion because surely Darth Vader wouldn't be dumb enough to leave only 15-20 troopers to occupy the ENTIRE Jedi Temple. Or would he?
And if Jett, (A PADAWAN!) can take out 7 troopers in a matter of seconds, i'm sure it can't be that far of a stretch to assume two jedi Masters (one of them being f'n YODA) could take on a battalion of hundreds. And again, multiply that by the power of 6 and you've got a more even playing field.
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jedimasterinu
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I agree with FallenKnight88. If there were a few Council members there (seeing what Yoda and Obi-Wan did) the Jedi Order would have stood a chance.
But, they would still be caught of guard, as the Dark Side clouded their thought. So, even thought many more Clone Troopers would have died, the Order would be killed, along with Yoda and Obi-Wan. And we cant have that happen, can we?
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lordmorpheus
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11/3/05 10:47pm
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well, given yoda's nature of seeing things as or before they happen, that may have been ample enough time for them to sense anakin's arrival and the clones with him. in any event, i doubt that palps would have sent anakin after the ENTIRE jedi council by himself. no chance. hell, even sidious didnt want that confrontation. but circumstances aside, with what anakin showed up with, yeah, the jedi would have turned them back without a second thought. this wasnt an open arena with droids and blasters everywhere, this would have been somewhat closed quarters, which would undoubtedly favor the jedi and their hand weapons, NOT TO MENTION, access to the force, and home field advantage.
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darth-sinister
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11/3/05 10:51pm
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Between the whole battalion that was sent and Darth Vader, it wouldn't have mattered. The whole point was to catch them all offguard and off balance. It would stlil be a slaughter. Yoda only sensed the attack on him because he was in tune with the Living Force at that moment, due to the death of Ki-Adi and the others.
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brook_33
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11/3/05 10:52pm
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well, i don't think more masters would have helped. i mean, agen kolar probably would have just stood there looking away from the clones, and saesee would have been waiting for him to do something.
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lordmorpheus
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DS, are you serious? with all of the clones virtually walkin thru the front door, that is a bottle neck if i ever saw one. nevertheless, i dont believe that 12 individuals would have made that much difference, but consider what those 12 represent and what pedigree they have, and what their valuable leadership would have meant. the clones, while having watched jedi on a daily basis in battle, still had no concept of the force, and with the jedi within the temple, anakin took out the best of them. you believe that he'd have been able to take out perhaps, koon, ti and adi-mundi in the same manner? possible, but not probable. then again, hell, palps took out three of them with mace windu present so its' hard to tell.
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darth-sinister
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11/3/05 11:24pm
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Take a look at the staircase. That's a lot of Clonetroopers with Vader. At least a batallion. I don't know how many are in such a group. I'd say at least 500 went with Vader.
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DUGGY
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so we are saying the Jedi could do what? regain control?. or make a greater last stand?. cause i think more experienced Jedi at the Temple may have done better, but they could not keep it going till they won back the Republic. No way in a million years.
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Sweet_James_Jones
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11/3/05 11:55pm
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I made a thread on this with another user name around the time the movie came up. The conclusion we came to was that the temple would have still fallen but Yoda would have made sure the Younglings made it out alive. Mace would have at least held on to the temple long enough to where they could have made a tactical retreat into the Coruscant underground or off planet.
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