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SithStarSlayer
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Well to be honest, I cried about as much as the dude who did this to him...
Lets face it: Jedi Master Mace Windu, just wasn't a very lovable character. Which really sucks in its own way because, SLJ is one of my all time favorite actors.
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Mace reminds me of an officer that I served with in the military about 15 years ago. He got the job done and often did so ahead of schedule, he was just a jerk to his subordinates all the time. He couldn't rally drunks with free gallons of booze. Let alone get anything done without using his rank.
My point is Mace (just like the officer I knew) doesn't warrant any sympathy...
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Achilles_of_Edmonton
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I cried over the damage to Sam Jacksons career.
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DarthShaun
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I believe when Yoda said " I hope right you are" that basically meant there was so mistrust there on his part as well with Mace. He agreed with Mace from the looks he had when talking with Obi-Wan and Mace. It pretty obvious that Yoda has some misconceptions of Anakin too. He just chose not express it explictly as Mace did. I did not feel like I wanted to cry when Mace was killed. I was more shocked at everything that was happening. I kinda tried of hearing people saying that the scream Mace had when his hand was cut off by Anakin was stupid. It really wasn't in my opinion. I mean if your hand was cut off, you'd scream too. You certainly wouldn't just stand there looking stupid.
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RebelScum77
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SithStarSlayer posted:
Mace reminds me of an officer that I served with in the military about 15 years ago. He got the job done and often did so ahead of schedule, he was just a jerk to his subordinates all the time. He couldn't rally drunks with free gallons of booze. Let alone get anything done without using his rank.
My point is Mace (just like the officer I knew) doesn't warrant any sympathy...[/b]
That's a good analogy.
Mace was a powerful Force user, but being a good Jedi doesn't necessarily give you good people skills. This is perhaps why some Jedi are healers and other warriors. He may have compassion for others, but I think it's more because it's a Jedi requirement than a natural urge.
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TheCRZA
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Anakin was not mature enough to be a master.
I don't think it was a matter of maturity as much
as it was that he had no mastery over himself.
Which Anakin earned with his greed for power.
Anakin already had the power, he merely wanted the recognition.
Again, Anakin deserved no trust until he had proven himself, which he did one moment (which Mace admits with this statement), but then revoke through his betrayal.
Deserved no trust? He was a Jedi Knight.
If they didn't trust him, why allow him to remain in the order.
He shouldn't have to give Anakin ego massage. Anakin's responsibility was far too great for anyone to afford him not taking his role as a Jedi more seriously.
This scene wasn't about Anakin's ego as much as it was about Mace's.
You are missing the point of the Prequels. Starting someone's Jedi training late is dangerous, even more dangerous for someone of Anakin's potential. Mace knew what was at stake.
Training any jedi at any age is dangerous. There is always the threat of turning.
The old Jedi order attempted to remove humanity from human jedi.
Luke was trained later than anyone and he turned out just fine.
Mace never knew what was at stake, only what he thought was at stake.
No, he reaped what Palpatine and Anakin's ego sowed.
Mace had other options than storming off without Anakin.
Prophecy = Chosen One killing Sith and balancing force.
Anakin = Chosen One.
Algen Kolar, Saese Tiin, Kit Fisto do not = Chosen One.
Mace is directly responsible for their deaths.
It was ludicrous to take them there.
What happened, happened because Mace didn't use any real strategy.
No, he just expected a degree of maturity and responsibility as a Jedi that Anakin never showed.
Anakin shows restraint and introspection all throughout ROTS;
surely this is a mark of maturity and responsiblity.
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mjerome3
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Although I liked the character of Mace Windu, I didn't grieve when he died. I think he died in a gallant, heroic way, and I was proud the way he went out. Palpatine on the other hand proved to be a chump.
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DARK__SITH__LORD
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yes, I agree.
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Ani_Lover
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TheCRZA posted:
Anakin was not mature enough to be a master.
I don't think it was a matter of maturity as much
as it was that he had no mastery over himself.
Which Anakin earned with his greed for power.
Anakin already had the power, he merely wanted the recognition.
Again, Anakin deserved no trust until he had proven himself, which he did one moment (which Mace admits with this statement), but then revoke through his betrayal.
Deserved no trust? He was a Jedi Knight.
If they didn't trust him, why allow him to remain in the order.
He shouldn't have to give Anakin ego massage. Anakin's responsibility was far too great for anyone to afford him not taking his role as a Jedi more seriously.
This scene wasn't about Anakin's ego as much as it was about Mace's.
You are missing the point of the Prequels. Starting someone's Jedi training late is dangerous, even more dangerous for someone of Anakin's potential. Mace knew what was at stake.
Training any jedi at any age is dangerous. There is always the threat of turning.
The old Jedi order attempted to remove humanity from human jedi.
Luke was trained later than anyone and he turned out just fine.
Mace never knew what was at stake, only what he thought was at stake.
No, he reaped what Palpatine and Anakin's ego sowed.
Mace had other options than storming off without Anakin.
Prophecy = Chosen One killing Sith and balancing force.
Anakin = Chosen One.
Algen Kolar, Saese Tiin, Kit Fisto do not = Chosen One.
Mace is directly responsible for their deaths.
It was ludicrous to take them there.
What happened, happened because Mace didn't use any real strategy.
No, he just expected a degree of maturity and responsibility as a Jedi that Anakin never showed.
Anakin shows restraint and introspection all throughout ROTS;
surely this is a mark of maturity and responsiblity.
I agree with you completely!!
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darthvaderv
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CRIED! No I think Mace done that for me. 
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Master_Win-Dex
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I didn't cry but i was pretty sad the way Anakin betrayed him and all. Right before he was shot out through the window he looked at Anakin like dude why did you do this? I got real teary when order 66 came and they killed Ki-Adi-Mundi and Plo Koon. 
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yoshifett
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I laughed like a giddy little school girl as Mace yelled and Palpatine's face twisted "with sadistic delight" as he screams UNLIMITED POWER! 
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Sidious_T
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^^^^^^
Agree with Yoshi I do. I laughed too and thought good riddence.
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yoshifett
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Achilles_of_Edmonton posted:
I cried over the damage to Sam Jacksons career.
Yeah it's sad. But he'll still be the highest grossing actor of all time.
Sidious_T posted:
^^^^^^
Agree with Yoshi I do. I laughed too and thought good riddence.
Hence the user icon, huh, Sids? That's one of my favorite moments in that pic, even though some blashphemous fellows think this scene is corny.
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Not me!
I was glad when that punk got his beats!!
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yoshifett
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solo77 posted:
Not me!
I was glad when that punk got his beats!!
Word.
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