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JediRandy
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12/8/05 12:16pm
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colivo posted:
If Natalie Portman gets a best supporting actress nomination, I will lose the will to live!
I'd settle for losing the will to post.
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Jedi_Ford_Prefect
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12/8/05 12:26pm
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WEEBACCA posted:
Jedi_Ford_Prefect posted:
[quote=WEEBACCA][quote=Jedi_Ford_Prefect]Well, that never happens. Usually the BOS award is given to a somewhat unorthodox writer/director while the BD award is given to the safer, more orthodox director. Think of how Tarantino won the Best Original Screenplay award for Pulp Fiction but lost the Best Director award to Robert Zemeckis for Forest Gump. Often, the BOS award doesn't even go to a writer/director anymore, and just to whomever wrote the safest screenplay that year. Think of how Wes Anderson and Owen Wilson's script for The Royal Tenenbaums and Christopher Nolan's script for Memento both lost to Julian Fellowe's Gosford Park.
I'm sure you're right, but I don't think it's a very big chance that there will ever be a Best Writer-Director/Auteaur Oscar since the Academy has indicated that they really wish to reduce the number of categories rather than add a new (and possibly overlapping) one.
You never know. It wasn't too long ago the Academy had no award for Best Animated Feature.
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WEEBACCA
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12/8/05 12:33pm
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Jedi_Ford_Prefect posted:
You never know. It wasn't too long ago the Academy had no award for Best Animated Feature.
We could always hope for it to happen, but I think it's not likely as long as they have BD and BOS and have been talking about having fewer categories. Best Animated Feature category was long overdue anyway. 
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Jedi_Ford_Prefect
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12/8/05 6:01pm
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WEEBACCA posted:
Jedi_Ford_Prefect posted:
You never know. It wasn't too long ago the Academy had no award for Best Animated Feature.
We could always hope for it to happen, but I think it's not likely as long as they have BD and BOS and have been talking about having fewer categories. Best Animated Feature category was long overdue anyway.
For me, an Auteur award has been long overdue since, say, Orson Welles lost as best director for Citizen Kane to John Ford for [/i]How Green Was My Valley[/i], back in 1941.
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WormieSaber
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ROTS should at least win for best FX, seriously with the new 64AMD technology they used you can't deny the opening scene was awesome.
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arabiansanchez
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12/9/05 12:42am
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I believe Ian mc Diarmid is completely deserving of a nomination or even a win for supporting actor.
His performance(s) were high caliber and his Chancellor performance wouldn't have been out of place or Flash Gordon-esque, whatever, in ANY film. Anyone who saw the UK TV drama Elizabeth in which he co-starred with Helen Mirren will see that his performance as Palpatine; simillar to his role as Lord Burley in aforementioned drama; is actually pretty subtle and top notch.
This isn't a slate on old prune-face Emperor Palpatine btw; it's just by nature he's much more of a caricature; a FANTASTIC caricature given off an aurra of utterly delightful intoxicated evil.
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MystikalMaceWindu
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12/9/05 1:00am
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Long ago, I lost interest in the Oscars. In fact, I rarely had any true interest or respect for it. The decisions are all very money-driven, very political, rather nationalistic and done with revenue in mind.
Same goes with the Grammys and most entertainment award shows.
I just wish such shows were truly based on quality, and not all those EXTERNAL reasons.
I don't care if Revenge of the Sith doesn't win. I like it, and that's all that matters. I don't need any award show, especially one as rotten as the Oscars, to tell me what's good. I like what I like.
And if ROTS won a ton of Oscars, so what. That would likely more be reason to hate the movie. Now, if the Oscars were a respectable, honest awards show, then that would be saying something.
I mean, come on, guys, you like Sith, isn't that enough? Or do you really need it to get that recognition from a flimsy, corrupt film organization? For what reason?
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battlewars
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12/9/05 1:20am
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lucas should win for the whole star wars saga like peter jackson did with lotr, he won those awards really for the culmination of the whole trilogy not just one film and i think lucas should for that reason also
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WEEBACCA
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12/9/05 2:55am
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battlewars posted:
lucas should win for the whole star wars saga like peter jackson did with lotr, he won those awards really for the culmination of the whole trilogy not just one film and i think lucas should for that reason also
This is the first time that I wholeheartedly agree with you, Battlewars! If there's any decency at all in the Academy (probably isn't) then they will award ROTS with a handful of Oscars. I've stated on numerous occations that LOTR:ROTK winning 11 Oscars is the biggest shame in the history of the Academy. But if they award Lucas the same way I will forgive them.
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Formerly_Tukafo
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12/9/05 3:02am
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Weebacca, you know as well as I do that hell will freeze over and pigs will fly before Sith will get any awards or nominations (apart from Sound Effects Editing or so but nobody pays attention to those awards anyway). And as much as I like Sith I wouldn't give it any awards either. Sith is a great escapist spectacle and there's nothing wrong with that but awards should go to more profound movies
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WEEBACCA
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12/9/05 3:10am
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Formerly_Tukafo posted:
Weebacca, you know as well as I do that hell will freeze over and pigs will fly before Sith will get any awards or nominations (apart from Sound Effects Editing or so but nobody pays attention to those awards anyway). And as much as I like Sith I wouldn't give it any awards either. Sith is a great escapist spectacle and there's nothing wrong with that but awards should go to more profound movies
I totally agree with you that ROTS won't win any Oscars. I also agree that awards and nominations is nothing we should pay attention of (especially the Oscars - LOTR:ROTK winning 11 ruined my relationship with the Oscars forever). But I would have given it awards, buckets full! An IMO ROTS is one of those profound movies (in my opinion the best movie since the OT).
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Formerly_Tukafo
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We need to be careful not to talk too much about LOTR or the thread will be locked :-)). However I thought LOTR was far more deserving of awards then for example Dances with wolves or Shakespeare in love or Chicago
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Nobody cares about the Academy Awards anymore. The impact of the Oscars have dropped a great deal over the last ten years.
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skye_solo
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12/9/05 3:58am
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The way they were handing out awards last year...IF, and that's a big if from looney fantasyland (cause the Academy would have to be in that frame of mind to give ROTS any awards save for FX) the film won anything they might as well accept it from the ol' Ranch with a breathtaking Pacific sunset in the background.
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12/9/05 5:25am
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When Saving Private Ryan didn't win Best Picture, the Oscars lost all legitimacy in my opinion.
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