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millenniumteacher Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 1:31am Subject: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	When Obi Wan, Mace and Yoda spoke in ROTS Yoda stated that the profecy had been misread. Yes I believe it was. The jedi thought that Anakin was going to take out the Sith Master Sidious as a jedi, when in fact even Master Yoda couldn't do it. Anakin had to become a sith lord to fullfill the profecy. To kill the Sith Master took a Sith Lord apprentice. Therefore, he did fullfill his destiny, to both the sith and the jedi. Thoughts? -----signature----- Much to learn you have my young one... So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause Ancient religons and Hokey Weapons are no match for a good brain kid... I love you...I know You're breaking my heart! Ouch, hey that hurts! No, really...STOP
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jedi_drifter Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 2:01am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	I thought about that, too. That Anakin would have to gain Sidious' trust to have a chance to take him by surprise and kill him. But Mace looked as though he could've killed Sidious, so I'm not sure about that. -----signature----- cares of the past are behind nowhere to go but I'll find just where the trail will wind drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds.
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PMT99 Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 12/16/05 2:42am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	According to Obi-wan, having Anakin become a Sith was NOT part of the prophecy and his last words to Anakin are: You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness. Anakin fulfills the prophecy by killing Darth Sidious, not when he becomes a Sith himself.
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Darth Mischievous Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 12/16/05 2:47am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	He did bring balance by eliminating the Old Jedi order and their archane ways and eliminating the Sith completely. When Anakin is finished, the slate is clean to begin anew and the Force is back in balance. -----signature----- "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give it to those who are not." --Thomas Jefferson
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PMT99 Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 12/16/05 3:15am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	Killing the Jedi was NOT part of the prophecy because just like what Hurricane Katrina did to the state of New Orleans, it threw the Force further off balance.
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TheOutlawJedi Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 12/16/05 5:57am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	It would also take away from Anakin having to make his own choices, and taking responsibilty for them. I dont think the Force would create such a mess as the Empire, the destuction of the Jedi, the death of innocent poeple, the enslavement of people and planets. The Jedi use the Force for good, the Sith use it for evil, its an abuse of power, and Anakin chose to save Palps, for his own greedy reasons. The Force doesnt create situations, people do. The Force gives visions of the future, but its still up to people on how they react to the visions and dreams they see. The future is always in motion, to sum it up, we create our future, with the choices we make everyday.
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jedi_jacks Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 10:01am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	i think anakin had a choice: (1) to be wiped out with the other jedi or if he was lucky to hide out (2) become sidious' apprentice. so i guess i agree, since being wiped out isnt much of a choice. -----signature----- We don't choose the things we believe in; they choose us. (Lamar Burgess / Minority Report) If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards ... Checkmate. <Zapp Brannigan>
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Hypernova Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 10:57am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	Anakins "destiny" was to destroy the Sith. He did that..............he just got a little sidetracked (about 20 years) on the way! LOL
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 12/16/05 11:26am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a sith...
	Anakin was supposed to bring balance, but it never said that he had to be a Jedi to do so. Nor does it say that he had to be a Sith either. Just that he would bring balance. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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Amon_Amarth Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 3:09pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	Anakin did bring balance. The prophecy didn't say which means he would take to do so. It was his destiny to be both a Jedi and a Sith; to know both sides of the Force to able to bring balance to it. -----signature----- Jedi Guardian - Acolytes of Revan Dr. Sheldon Cooper FTW! 'Caenorhabditis elegans' is much better than Darth Plagueis at cheating death. "Don't **** with the Jedi Master, son!" Mark Hamill, CE
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PrinceEspaaValorum Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 5:49pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	Anakin was never a Sith. Darth Vader was the Sith. And Vader could have taken Sidious out in another possible reality--that of Vader's killing Kenobi, surviving intact, learning enough from Sidious to take him out. But no Sith killed Sidious: not Plagueis, not Maul, not Tyrannus, not Vader. Post-Mustafar Vader could not take out Sidious alone. He needed Luke. But when Luke demonstrated the power of true love by showing that he was ready to give his life for his father, Anakin decided to save his son, giving his own life out of true love to save his son. Thus, one need not be a Sith to destroy Sidious, nor did Anakin ever have to become a Sith to kill Sidious. In fact, Anakin could have killed Sidious after Sidious revealed his true identity. Mace could have killed Sidious. Anakin could have helped Mace or just stayed out of the way like he was supposed to. -----signature----- "Still, Star Wars will do very nicely for those lucky enough to be children or unlucky enough never to have grown up." -- John Simon, New York, (June 20, 1977), collected in the book, Reverse Angle (1982)
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Elle-Wan Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 12/16/05 6:53pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	PMT99 posted: According to Obi-wan, having Anakin become a Sith was NOT part of the prophecy and his last words to Anakin are: You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness. Anakin fulfills the prophecy by killing Darth Sidious, not when he becomes a Sith himself. When Obi-Wan said these things he was assuming that Anakin was going to be dead in about 5 minutes. The story wasn't over. Anakin did destroy the Sith and he did bring balance to the Force.
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Fat_Bird Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 12/16/05 9:03pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	I don't think that he HAD to become a Sith. All he had to do was kill Sidious and he didn't have to be a Sith to do that. But since he didn't do what was right (for his own selfish reasons), things got as bad as they could and it took him 20 years to do what he was supposed to do all along. -----signature----- Obi-Wan Kenobi is the greatest Jedi Knight of the saga. Anakin who? Mace what?
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Yodas_Got_Bed_Head Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 12/16/05 9:32pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	darth-sinister posted: Anakin was supposed to bring balance, but it never said that he had to be a Jedi to do so. Nor does it say that he had to be a Sith either. Just that he would bring balance. 'Nuff said. -----signature----- "...Do or do not, there is no try." "Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?"
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voodoopuuduu Title: Classic Trilogy Trivia Host Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 12/16/05 9:59pm Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	Anakin had to become a Sith to fulfill the OT. The Lucas phophesy trumps the Jedi phophesy any day. -----signature----- Winner CT Trivia Challenge 44, 54 Winner PT Trivia Challenge 10 , 13, 14, 17 Joint-Winner CT Challenge 49 and 50, PT Challange 18
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SarlaccSurvivor Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 12/17/05 1:38am Subject: RE: Anakin had to become a Sith...
	I agree with previous posters that in order to bring balance to the Force, both the Sith and the Old Jedi Order had to be wiped out. Both organizations took a very narrow view of the Force and thus had big problems. So the only other way I see that Anakin could fulfill the prophecy is the way Neo fulfilled his prophecy. Basically, Sidious and his minions would have to kill all the Jedi but Anakin. Then Anakin (still a Jedi) and Sidious would fight, they would both have to die, and someone (Luke and/or Leia) would start a new Jedi Order with a wider view of the Force. -----signature----- Member of the Luke Skywalker Fan Club and Princess Leia Fan Club. Knight of the Lambda Calculus "Don't become a monster in order to defeat a monster"- U2
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