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TheCRZA
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12/20/05 4:45pm
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Well, if someone had told Grievous to evacuate the Death Star, he would have been out of there...he likes to run. That would have been smart. Tarkin blew up.
I think the interaction with Grievous would have gone something like so:
"General, we've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger.
Should I have your ship stan -- " Looks around. "Uh, General Grievous?"
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lrdmonarch
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yoshifett posted:
But Episode IV takes place AFTER episode III. I think the poster is looking for an in-universe answer.
Perhaps the decision to let them escape was hatched when Tarkin was told they had rescued the princess. So you don't use the ray shields on someone you decided to let escape.
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TheCRZA
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Then what are the barrier fields in the docking bays aboard the ships
if they aren't ray shields?
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So Grievous and his crew were able to track the Jedi on the Invisible Hand and they knew what corridors they were in and stuff. Was this a lost technology in the OT? Why couldn't the Empire track Luke and the gang and trap them in ray shields on the Death Star? Was the technology lost when the Invisible Hand was destroyed?
On the Invisible Hand, the only life forms aboard were Palps, Dooku and the Nemoidians in the cockpit. They knew were they were, Dookus dead and Palps escaped. Then by process of elimination, they knew the life forms running down the halls were Palps and the Jedi. On the Deathstar, it was full of life forms, clones and others, not droids. It was impossible to distinguish Luke, Leia and Han.
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yoshifett
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TheCRZA posted:
Well, if someone had told Grievous to evacuate the Death Star, he would have been out of there...he likes to run. That would have been smart. Tarkin blew up.
I think the interaction with Grievous would have gone something like so:
"General, we've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger.
Should I have your ship stan -- " Looks around. "Uh, General Grievous?"
LOL LOL LOL!
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Get_in_Gear
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I think the point is that the galaxy went to **** once the Emperor's rule set in.
When a dictator settles in, he takes control of everything that was great about the freedom and democracy which precedes him, and makes it his own.
Twenty-odd years down the line, he has stifled all creativity and industry.
All the craftsmen and skilled cultures just aren't getting the support, finances and freedom to make all these cool things like ray shielded corridors and disappearing speeder canopies and so on, because the Empire is channeling all of that wealth and prosperity into its greedy fat self.
Eventually, even the Empire's technology suffers, becuase they oppressed a generation of pioneers and craftsmen.
Its a commentary on all dictatorship and oppressive regimes.
By the OT, everything is all beaten up and a bit crappy.
The Empire has all the best stuff, but even that is a bit outdated...
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TopSpeeD
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Well,The Death Star is much bigger than the Invisible Hand..maybe they couldnt install ray shields in all the lvls..
just my guess
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sithrules70
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TheCRZA posted:
Well, if someone had told Grievous to evacuate the Death Star, he would have been out of there...he likes to run. That would have been smart. Tarkin blew up.
I think the interaction with Grievous would have gone something like so:
"General, we've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger.
Should I have your ship stan -- " Looks around. "Uh, General Grievous?"
good one master crza 
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dude4c
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lrdmonarch posted:
yoshifett posted:
But Episode IV takes place AFTER episode III. I think the poster is looking for an in-universe answer.
Perhaps the decision to let them escape was hatched when Tarkin was told they had rescued the princess. So you don't use the ray shields on someone you decided to let escape.
this sounds right. the objective of the empire in this film is to find the reble hidden base and get the plans back. letting them go to be tracked makes sense and could very well be the reason they were allowed to escape.
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ChewieHadBotox posted:
But that was on the outside, in space. The indoor ray shields are different, aren't they? You can see them indoors, but in space they are invisible.
Shields in Star Wars are visible when interacting with the atmosphere but not outside of an atmosphere.
In TPM, Anakin's fighter exhibited a shield effect inside the Trade Fed ship when the droids shot at him, but the same fighters in space (and the Queen's ship) didn't show any shield glowing. These are the same shields but look different depending on where they are.
Various ships shown in space do not have shield glow when they get hit, except for some Trade Fed ships in ROTS, which had a sort of blueish shield effect near the beginning. But this battle does take place in the upper levels of Coruscant's atmosphere (DVD commentary).
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Darksyder, the queens ship in TPM got shot and the "sheild generator" was hit. that is why you didn't see it. by the time R2 repaired it they were on their way past the blockade.
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TheCRZA posted:
I think the interaction with Grievous would have gone something like so:
"General, we've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger.
Should I have your ship stan -- " Looks around. "Uh, General Grievous?"
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qui-gon-kim
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So Grievous and his crew were able to track the Jedi on the Invisible Hand and they knew what corridors they were in and stuff. Was this a lost technology in the OT? Why couldn't the Empire track Luke and the gang and trap them in ray shields on the Death Star? Was the technology lost when the Invisible Hand was destroyed?
The DS is a much larger vessel than the Invisible Hand (the size of a small moon, after all) so it stands to reason that it would be much more difficult to track an intruder.
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Alpha-Red
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What exactly are ray shields anyway? Do they only block energy weapons? And what was the point of putting them on the Death Star exhaust port if lasers are only line-of-sight weapons?
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They might not have had ray shields aboard the Death Star, since they never figured that any Rebel would be daring enough to sneak aboard. Much less a Corellian smuggler, his Wookiee co-pilot/bodyguard, two droids, a Jedi Master and his Padawan Learner. Tarkin didn't know that there were others with Obi-wan, until after the Stormtroopers reported that they escaped the Detention Center. Artoo also probably messed with the tracking systems, to keep them from being pin pointed with a great degree of accuracy.
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