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voodoopuuduu
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12/27/05 7:11pm
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But I am not so sure if Lucas planned all of the names, maybe just the major characters, I would love to see his explanation.
There is a little bit of the name explanation on one of the dvd commentaries. It seems the marketing people have a lot to say about the names.
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adamlee
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really? that sucks.So I guess Lucas is like okay I want a new character, I am thinking Darth BabyKiller.Yes? And the marketing people are like...Umm how about Sir Kittyhuggins?
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thechozn1
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Wouldn't shock me or anything. GL has a way of sliding in little plays on names all the time. Some of them are just more blatant than others.
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adamlee posted:
That is awesome.Good work on the Buddhist reference.You probably are more on point in the origin of Padme Amidala's name.
I did a paper for my world religions class on the Star Wars saga.It dealt with the Buddhist and Christian undertones,including the Immaculate Conception.Some guy goes, "Man I never would have pegged you for a Star Wars lover!" I guess that is a compliment.
Could a mod change the subject so that it references all the names and their meanings?That would make for a very cool thread I think.And thank you to all for being so nice about the thread.
AdamLee I did a paper too, many years ago before the PT came out on Star Wars in my philosophy class in my softomore year of college! Too funny. The instructor loved it and even let me read his work on his PhD dissertation which was on the rise of Darth Vader! I still have it. I guess we are all silently star wars geeks. Thats okay with me.
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darth-sinister
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12/27/05 11:14pm
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Darth Vader is Dark Father. Lucas confirmed that in 2005, though I don't think it was that way in the beginning. Vader is also the name of someone that Lucas knew growing up. Once he heard about Dark Father, he decided to use it. Yoda is the name of an actual Japanese philosopher that Lucas knew. Anakin/Annikin is based off the name of an actual film maker, I think it was. Luke Skywalker is said to be based off of LucaS, though I think that's more speculation than anything.
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adamlee
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12/28/05 1:46am
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that is awesome.I like how detailed Lucas is.I am an aspiring writer and director.So I love to see people that I respect go to great lengths to give their work special meaning.Darth Sinister,thanks for the find.
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Sidious_T
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Darth_Frared posted:
i think the term itself is more related to a thing we normally call plot device
 Good one Darth Frared. There ALWAYS has to be a hidden meaning or symbolisim doesn't there?
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darthmike29
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12/28/05 7:24am
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You dudes, are just taking this hidden meaning stuff too far!
Did you know that in Greek, amygdala means almonds (as in the nuts), and amygdalo means a single almond. BTW I'm not kidding.
Now I'd like you to find the hidden meaning in that!
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Sidious_T
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^^^^
Amen
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voodoopuuduu
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really? that sucks.So I guess Lucas is like okay I want a new character, I am thinking Darth BabyKiller.Yes? And the marketing people are like...Umm how about Sir Kittyhuggins?
Yes, thats basically it, but give the marketing people just little bit more IQ credit. The action figures and other stuff has to sell. Lucas still has the final say of course.
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your diggin to deep.
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darthmike29 posted:
Did you know that in Greek, amygdala means almonds (as in the nuts), and amygdalo means a single almond. BTW I'm not kidding.
Now I'd like you to find the hidden meaning in that!
oh well.
didn't look that one up.
parts of our body are often named for resemblance to certain shapes. that's no big deal.
i'm still thinking the buddhist reference works best, especially in connection with 'padme', the lotus.
i think there is huge symbolism in words. especially in a work of art. and the symbolism isn't restricted to the origin of a word. it's also connected to sound and melody of a word. and SW is extremely rich in those. may i remind you of poggle the lesser and salacious crumb. i have no proper idea who or what is behind these names but they sound both otherworldly and very terrestric to me. just like SW tends to explore both space and our own tiny world, the words and names of the creatures do that.
so, no, i don't think we were overdoing it. i think we were just exercising our research muscles.  and i for one love doing that.
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Crazy_Old_Kermit
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Was that really what Lucas was leaning towards with Vader? Invader?
I know the whole Vader=Father and Dooku=Poison, but that's in our actual planet's languages I guess.
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adamlee
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In response to the statement that we are digging too hard,nobody said you have to read the thread right? So flame off please.To the other posters,what do you think are some other cool names that have meaning?
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UPwind-ooooh
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12/28/05 8:37pm
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Sinister said: "Vader is also the name of someone that Lucas knew growing up."
That may be, but according to THIS SITE :
"It is interesting to note that "Vader" is the Dutch word for "father" and that the German word for "father" (Vater) is similar. Thus, it may be tempting to read the character name "Darth Vader" as "Dark Father". However, in the original scripts for Star Wars, the name "Darth Vader" was given to a normal Imperial general. Judging by the origin of the other Sith names, Vader may also possibly be a derivative of the word "invader." In the movie's novelization Darth Sidious conjures the name from the Dark Side—"Darth Vader" is supposed to mean him, supposedly a nod to his status as the Chosen One."
" Lucas took the name "Anakin" from his friend and fellow film director, Ken Annakin. "
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