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MasterEnder
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12/29/05 6:36pm
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I searched baby names and I got some pretty cool results. Sidious means to ensnare, Jinn means tenderness, Anakin means warrior, Padme means goddess, Luke means light, and Leia means weary.
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aden
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hehe see my post?
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JFKIII
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To MasterEnder and everone else interested, just to let you know babynames.com (which is where I'm assuming you got those definitions) put up those names AFTER star wars established them in the pop culture lexicon. Like for instance, the name beyonce is now on babynames.com and I think they list it as meaning beautiful, but it was not there on the site until destiny's child came into prominence.
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DarthDuckie
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"Pork" from the Latin, porkus, meaning pig.
"Ïns" from the English, inside, meaning inside.
Hence, Porkins means a man with pigs inside him, denoting a very fat man.
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adamlee
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Obi Chron posted:
No problem, adamlee -- but in the future you can click 'show last 5 replies' below your message area (where you type) and you'll be able to see the most recent replies as you conjure up your wise and witty posts.
Is there some secret society all of you are a part of?Please just chill out and let's get along.Geez.Was anybody even talking to you?No, so thanks for playing.
What is Boba Fett or Lando Calrissian about?
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Obi-Chron
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DarthDuckie -- thank you for that amazingly informative interlude! My only reply to that is: That cat is on the roof. I'm hungry! Tomorrow it may rain, or it may not!
adamlee -- Dude . . . don't be so rude! Tis you who was quoting my post and then said you forgot who posted it, and I merely told you how to see through the fog of your blinded mind, courtesty of the webmaster (this is a relatively new feature), to view the last five posts. Don't be so sensitive and hostile -- the mods take exception to that. Learn to give help when needed and take it when offered. Lashing out only alienates and offends, and you will be ignored.
Back on subject: Agree that the SW related baby names were entered into the lexicon because of the popularity of the saga, and absolutely not because the saga names were taken from the popular lexicon!
GL thinks like a chess master, so deep on so many levels. He embroiders his movies with characters and places that have some deep level of meaning to him, so important personally that he relays them on to us -- sort of like a gift.
As the philosophical apprentice to Joseph Campbell, GL recreates the power of myth, the essentials of myth throuhout the SW saga. We may not read Greek Mythology or understand Shintoism, the Samurai or Buddhism, but GL translates that for us in the saga, providing the essentials in a very far out scifi setting, but not so far out that we cannot identify with all of the important elements.
Oh, and Luke does not mean 'light,' it means "bringer of the light" -- Padmé most closely means lotus, a flower believed to heighten meditation and enable dreams (ironic) -- Anakin's name is rumored to come from Ken Annakin, one of Lucas's friends and a fellow director -- George Lucas went to high school with someone called Gary Vader (coincidence?) -- Count Dooku most likely got his name from the Japanese word for poison, Doku. Christopher Lee confirms it: "Not many people realise that dooku is Japanese for 'poison' -- which is very appropriate, really, because he's lethal" -- The name of Anakin's mother is taken from Lakshmi , the Hindu goddess of wealth, light and fortune, known as "the mother of the universe ."
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adamlee
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Obichron,the wise and witty posts thing was not meant to be helpful.
as you so eloquently put, BACK TO SUBJECT
Good post on the names Obichron.
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Bob0_Fett
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I'm basically coming out of retirement to bring this up, but this is the first thread that's caught my eye in a long time. So bare with me...
Palpatine's first name is evidenced (though disputedly so) to be Augustus. This can be assumed by the fact that the title to the final track on the Phantom Menace soundtrack is titled "Augie's Municipal Band and End Credits." Now in this track the vocals are the same, albeit sung more brightly and happily, as the lyrics in Palpatine's theme from Return of the Jedi.
So as part name origin, and part theory justification, I bring to your attention that Augustus was a Roman Emporer that...
*Took control after Caeser's untimely murder
*Formed the Second Triumvirate, an explicit grant of special powers and supported by law
*Set in motion proscriptions in which three hundred senators and two thousand equites were deprived of their property and, for those who failed to escape, their lives, going beyond a simple purge of those allied with [Caeser's] assassins (which he vowed to destroy)
*Note that equites is translated as Knight, and in the Ep. III deleted scenes mention a coaltion (or something) of 2,000 loyal senators that are, as we know, eventually "relieved" so to speak.
So thanx for reasding all that, I hope it made sense to somebody, as I've been trying to make sense of some of it for a while now.
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adamlee
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great find, since Lucas is a history buff.
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darth-sinister
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Sidious_T posted:
Shows just how far this board has fallen.....
Your sarcasm isn't warrented in this thread.
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aden
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lol
So anyways .. when i asked what Porkins meant I was only kidding.
I wonder what Han Solo came from. Maybe a friend of George's?
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UPwind-ooooh
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^^^
Some have speculated that the character was based upon Francis Ford Coppola, GL's friend and fellow director.
Taken literally, "Han" is an archaic English, Dutch and Czech form of "John," which means "God is merciful" or "God gives." The "Han" derivative survives in surnames like Hanson and Hancock. "Han" is also the 25th most common last name in China. Zhou Wu Wang made his youngest son the duke of Han, in charge of what became known as the Han kingdom. Most interestingly, in old German, "Hahn" from Middle High German hane or ‘rooster.' "Hahn" is hence a nickname for a conceited or sexually active man.
Solo means "alone" or "loner" and is also defined as a flight in which the aircraft pilot is unaccompanied. Similiarly solo can mean a musical instrument performing unaccompanied.
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Obi-Chron
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So Han Solo means "a conceited, sexually active and unaccompanied aircraft pilot?
If he's sexually active, but flies 'solo,' then Han evidently 'chokes the chicken' -- or more accurately, the 'rooster'? Who knew?
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Lol at Obi-Chron 
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One more thing about Palpy- the suffix -tine was not only quite common in Ancient Roman times, but the name Palpatine has an even more explicitly Roman origin. The seat of the Roman Imperial Government was at PALATINE Hill, in Rome. Another leg of support for the Roman Augustus thing.
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