Author Topic: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
adamlee 
Registered: Mar '04
7843_Anakin / Vader
Date Posted: 1/6/06 3:30am Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
JARJARPLAGEUIS, thanks for the compliment.

And kudos to everyone who has cracked their brains to figure out all the names.The above me has an awesome post.So not to make it a lovefest but great job guys and girls

 

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JediPrettyBoy 
Registered: Jan '05
6289_A-Wing
Date Posted: 1/6/06 6:48am Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
More than likely, the name Anakin was borrowed from the first five books of the Bible.

Just before the Hebrews are about the enter the land given to them by God (modern day Israel), most of the people become frightened by a race of people already living there called the Anakim.

The Anakim were a race of tall and intimidating people; referred to as giants in the Bible. They were seen as being very powerful in the eyes of other civilizations. Even though the Lord promised the Hebrews that he would grant them victory, the people operated by sight instead of faith and refused to enter the land because of the fear of the Anakim.

 

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darth_frared 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 2:35pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
never heard of those guys. interesting.

 

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Darth_Infernous 
Registered: Nov '05
40704_Mara Jade
Date Posted: 1/6/06 3:52pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
That's such a good point I'm sure her name has some meaning, adamlee that's great you picked that up I never would have thought about it myself! applause

 

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Bob0_Fett 
Registered: Dec '02
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 7:00pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
Wow. Palatine. Gee, see my earlier post, why dontchya? JK I ♥ u all anyway.
Well it seems these forums don't support more obscure characters... oh well you can google &#9829 if you care.

 

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anakin_luver 
Registered: Jul '05
40217_Anakin
Date Posted: 1/6/06 10:22pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
I wouldn't put it past George if that name really is symbolic in some way. Most stories with make believe languages are really just Latin words...Harry Potter for one.

 

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JFKIII 
Registered: Mar '05
23700_Anakin
Date Posted: 1/6/06 10:51pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
JediPrettyBoy, that was very interesting about the anakin/anakim connection. I have to look into that.

 

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inkswamp 
Registered: Oct '04
6241_R2-D2
Date Posted: 1/6/06 11:49pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
Bob0_Fett posted:
Wow. Palatine. Gee, see my earlier post, why dontchya? JK I &#9829; u all anyway.
Well it seems these forums don't support more obscure characters... oh well you can google &#9829 if you care.


Ah, I didn't see it first time around. I don't always read all posts in a thread, but I do scan to make sure I'm not repeating. That post slipped by.

 

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oliviagoddess 
Registered: Sep '05
20445_Aayla Secura
Date Posted: 1/16/06 1:21pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
I did a little research The SW Names FAQ, Version 2.0 (C) Julie Lim, May 1994:

Loki, the Norse god of mischief, was also called "Loptr", which is sometimes translated as "Skywalker". Loki was punished
for rebellion against the gods by being bound to a rock, where a serpent dropped burning venom onto his body. This presents a
possible link to Anakin's lava bath. "Anakim" [sic] is one of several names in the Old Testament for a race of giants, "the sons of the gods [who] lay with the daughters of men" [Genesis 6:4]. ("Anakim" is actually plural.) This may refer to Anakin's great height, as Vader's size was not installed with the armor. Intended to evoke "dark father" Vader is the Dutch word for "father," but is not pronounced the same way as the name. It carries various other echoes (invader, evader, etc.), mostly from the Latin "vadere": "to go / advance." The phrase "vade mecum" ("come with me"), also from this root, was formerly applied in English to a manual or guide. Another Latin word, "vadum", means "shallow place or ford" but also "depths or the sea".

"Coruscant" is "flashing, shining, scintillating". From the Latin "coruscare": "to quiver or flash."

"Palpatine" seems to come from the Latin "palpare": "to stroke, press, or flatter" ( <- palpate, palpitations), with "Palatine", one of the seven hills of Rome, on which several emperors resided. By extension, the adjectival form "palatinus" acquired the meaning "imperial"; the Latin name of the hill itself "Palatium", is the root of "palace".


"Sith" is an archaic version of "since,"

"What is thy Body but a swall'wing Grave,
Seeming to bury that Posterity
Which by the Rights of Time thou needs must have
If thou destroy them not in dark Obscurity?
If so the World will hold thee in Disdain,
Sith in thy Pride so fair a Hope is slain."
[W Shakespeare, "Venus and Adonis", stanza 127]

Visually resembles the Irish name for Faerie, "Sidhe" (pronounced "she"). An especially tenuous link can be drawn from the Arthurian view of the tril, in which Leia, as Luke's sister and love interest, fulfills the role of Morgan le Fay; Leia is
hailed in Zahn as "Lady Vader," the heir to Vader's Sith honorific (Sith = Sidhe = Faerie = Fay).


So, a playfull giant gets punished for being himself and is "saved" by an ingratiating lord in a shining city and has "since" been evil. I would say Padme's name has nothing to do with Anakin going bad!

 

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oliviagoddess 
Registered: Sep '05
20445_Aayla Secura
Date Posted: 1/16/06 1:24pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
"Padmé" is Sanskrit for "lotus flower," while "Amidala" is "spiritual manifestation". From the sacred mantra of Tibetan Buddhists, "Om Mani Padme Hum" ("Oh jewel in the lotus"). The lotus flower starts as a small flower down at the bottom of a pond in the mud and muck. It slowly grows up towards the waters surface continually moving towards the light. Once it come to the surface of the water the lotus flower begins to blossom and turn into a beautiful flower. Within Hinduism and Buddhism the lotus flower has become a symbol for awakening to the spiritual reality of life. The lotus inspires the person, that whenever faced with trouble and no matter how dark the waters may get, she will rise above and let the beautiful flower in them bloom as long as they have a pure and sincere heart. The Indian people see it as a message from the gods "to be detached from material preoccupations".

I would say that Padme was destined to be with Anakin. She is his spirit, the goodness in him and when she was threatened (by his own actions) he fell and stayed down.

 

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DMan304 
Registered: Jul '04
14378_Fett Legacy II
Date Posted: 1/19/06 6:04am Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
I have a headache. tired

You guys make me feel stupid.

 

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Chancellor_Ewok 
Registered: Nov '04
20459_Dark Trooper
Date Posted: 1/19/06 9:22am Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
Vader is the Dutch word for father. I also heard some where that the name Anakin is derived from "an qin" which is the Chinese word for invader.

 

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Obi-Chron 
Registered: Nov '03
45742_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 1/20/06 5:28pm Subject: RE: Was Amidala's name symbolic of Anakin's fall?
At THIS LINK we find the following scholarly snippet regarding the root 'Amida' of (Padme) 'Amidala.'

"Amida, the Buddha of Everlasting Light, was a previous incarnation of Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha. In the previous incarnation, as a bodhisattva, he refused to accept Buddhahood unless he could grant eternal happiness in the Pure Land to whoever called on him; 1 this compassionate promise was called the "Original Vow."

"[i]. . . above all else, the shift to Amidism represents a shift from a religion which stresses individual effort aimed at enlightenment to an exclusive reliance on salvation by the Amida; this opened up Buddhism to all classes, including women, who had previously been excluded from the various Buddhist priesthoods.
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