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DarthDischarge
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1/9/06 10:28am
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Should ROTS have showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place?
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Maybe messing him up with lightniong real good for a second to let Anakin know whos boss and not to mess with him but join or die? Even taking his saber from his hand against his will using the darkside? Palpatine showing some awesome power directed at Anakin directly and Anakin feeling the pain of it would of helped explain why he must serve his master and the fact that he had fear of Palpatine he would later need to overcome would of been interesting.
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Get_in_Gear
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No.
IMO, Vader is well and truly put in his place by Palpatine, in fashion which has far more lasting and harrowing effects than just pure bullying.
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DUGGY
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if you think that then you missed the point. It's about SEDUCTION. and greed. you can't force Anakin to turn , he has to choose to.  .
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farrellg
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Your suggestion sounds like a good idea, DarthDischarge. Showing the Emperor dominating Anakin the way he did with Luke would be better for the Emperor's image of awesome power. As the film stands, many people think the Emperor was underwhelming- unlike ROTJ where people thought he was insanely powerful. However, Anakin willingly agreed to join the dark side, so there was no reason for the Emperor to attack him.
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thechozn1
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You mean as opposed to Obi-wan?
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TomPiltoff
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Should ROTS HAVE showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place.
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thechozn1
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TomPiltoff posted:
Should ROTS HAVE showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place.
Have shown if you really wanna get technical.
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JMN77
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TomPiltoff posted:
Should ROTS HAVE showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place.
I did'nt know we were in english class. 
Anakin had to want to join the Dark Side (as he did).
If he was'nt willing to, I doubt lightning would have
changed his mind. If he had no conflict and there was no
way he was turning, then he would of fought Palp's and
at the most... died fighting him, before turning.
But he did choose to turn, so Sidious did'nt need to
physicaly persuade him.
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DS_Emp_Viper
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JMN77 posted:
TomPiltoff posted:
Should ROTS HAVE showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place.
I did'nt know we were in english class.
Anakin had to want to join the Dark Side (as he did).
If he was'nt willing to, I doubt lightning would have
changed his mind. If he had no conflict and there was no
way he was turning, then he would of fought Palp's and
at the most... died fighting him, before turning.
But he did choose to turn, so Sidious did'nt need to
physicaly persuade him.
I think what he is saying is that ONCE Anakin turns to the darkside it would have been cool to see Palpatine put him in his place...I mean after all that garbage about "I'm stronger then the chancellor..I can overthrow him!"...I mean comon.
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thechozn1
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JMJ77 class is in
Seriously when people come on here it's usually to let loose. Not much of a need to correct every grammatical error.
As far as the topic I guess it suffices to say that Palps had a great and strong teacher. He had learned to cheat death except for that whole sleeping too much thing. Palps had come into his own though and as was the Sith way, the Master had to go when the student is capable of offing him. Then he had years to develop his talents. Not only that he had untold ancient whatchamucallits that allowed him to learn from all the Sith Masters through the decades.
Anakin woulda been pwned until dabbling in the darkside for a while
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JMN77
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DS_Emp_Viper posted:
JMN77 posted:
TomPiltoff posted:
Should ROTS HAVE showed Palpatine putting Anakin in his place.
I did'nt know we were in english class.
Anakin had to want to join the Dark Side (as he did).
If he was'nt willing to, I doubt lightning would have
changed his mind. If he had no conflict and there was no
way he was turning, then he would of fought Palp's and
at the most... died fighting him, before turning.
But he did choose to turn, so Sidious did'nt need to
physicaly persuade him.
I think what he is saying is that ONCE Anakin turns to the darkside it would have been cool to see Palpatine put him in his place...I mean after all that garbage about "I'm stronger then the chancellor..I can overthrow him!"...I mean comon.
Yeah, thanks I understood.
BUT Palps (at this point) does'nt know Anakin's intents.
So your point is moot my friend.
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DUGGY
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1/9/06 7:57pm
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I don't see how Palpatine could or would get Physical with Anakin . first he had ample opportunity to Get physical when he revealed to Anakin he was Sideous. because Anakin pulled out his saber and pointed it at him. Palps did nothing because firstly he Did not want to validate the things Anakin thinks he believes about the Sith , and second i don't think it has ever been shown or proven anywhere that you can force a person to turn. they have to give themselves willingly. just as the ROTJ novel say's when Luke say's "you will not turn me like you did my father ". and Palps say's" I did not turn him he did that himself " . the reason Luke get's the lightning was not to turn him. it was because he won't turn.it was punishment, not a ultimatum. as Palps said " If you will not be turned , you will be destroyed " . by that point Palps has resolved himself to killing Luke. even when he takes a break in the lightning he say's " you have paid the price for your lack of vision ",and , " now young Skywalker , you will die " . everything leading up to the Lightning was the SEDUCTION . feeding Lukes hate. after he refuses after taking Vaders hand. everything after that is Punishment. and frying Luke would not have persuaded him. but Palpatine came close when he got Luke to give in to his Hate, and fight Vader. it's all about Seduction people. Anakin would have never turned if Palpatine used Violence on him. that is why he didn't
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It's a shame the Emperor didn't show Vader/Anakin the true power of the Dark Side. I always thought Anakin/Vader's injuries would be caused by Obi-Wan and Palpatine. As if Anakin had betrayed Windu and in desperation fought against good ole Palps. Then finally giving up when experiencing the power of the Dark Side and joining Sidious's cause. Then he could've gone and fight Obi-Wan to also get his classic beating. I thought it would go that way because of a single quote Yoda has in ROTJ, "Do not underestimate the power of the Emperor, or suffer your father's fate you will." In my opinion that almost states Anakin underestimated the Sidious the same way Luke did--and we see Anakin doing it. But the thing is we do see Luke realizing his mistake when he is getting lighted. We don't see such thing when it comes to Vader. Instead what we get is Anakin arrogantly thinking he is more powerful than Palpatine when he is not. And I do believe Palpatine wouldn't have let Vader become as powerful as he could have been had Obi-Wan not mauled him. Thing is Palpatine probably planned to subdue Vader, but did not need to once Obi-Wan served Vader. The potential would never have been realized and Palpatine needed not worry.
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Sidious would've put Vader in his proper place had Vader not fallen into the lava on Mustafar. His injuries changed him. They humbled him, and took away a lot of his ambition (for whatever reason). They also took away the possibility of Vader ever killing/overthrowing Sidious, which would be the only reason Sidious would have to put him in his place.
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Exactly my thoughts. But I still would have liked to watch them duke it out.
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DUGGY
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"Do not underestimate the power of the Emperor, or suffer your father's fate you will."
it shows that Yoda underestimated the power of the Emperor. as far as telling that to Luke , it fits well too. do not underestimate his seductive power. it's all about underestimating Palpatine. they all did.
Sidious would've put Vader in his proper place had Vader not fallen into the lava on Mustafar. His injuries changed him. They humbled him, and took away a lot of his ambition (for whatever reason). They also took away the possibility of Vader ever killing/overthrowing Sidious, which would be the only reason Sidious would have to put him in his place.
why would he put him in his place. ?. by saving him ,telling him he killed Padme , he sorta did put him in his place.but not through violence. Palpatine was satisfied enough with Vader , or he would not have saved him. it's after Luke arrives that Vader looks like a disapointment. since there are no more Jedi left Vader is the next best thing to Palps.he is the no2 Force User. then Luke comes along. and i see no proof that his Injuries Humbled him. the guy would choke the life out of any officer who screwed up in the least. that's not very humble.if anything he got worse. as for his ambition, he likely feels he owes Palpatine for saving him. but he is a Sith after all, and as soon as Vader learns of Luke, he has already plotting to turn Luke and kill Palps. he just has to be patient.something he learned well from Palpatine, not ObiWan. even as Palps say's to Vader in ESB " i hope your feelings are clear on this matter " as to turning Luke. Palps thinks Vader will help turn Luke.but he is suspicious of his intention. cause Vader is Sith. and Vader is thinking about turning Luke and killing Palps. it's the Sith circle of Life.
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