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Tiershon_Fett 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 1/11/06 10:17pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
If Mace was smart, he would have told the order to scramble to Ossus or somewhere and told the Temple to evacuate before they go try to cut down a known Sith Lord who runs the galaxy and has millions of troops at his disposal.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Registered: Jun '01
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Date Posted: 1/11/06 11:17pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
There wasn't a reason to. Four Jedi would've been enough to arrest Palpatine. Nor did they even consider Order 66. Besides, Palpatine knows about Ossus and the other Jedi strongholds.

 

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darth_frared 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 10:22am Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
Tiershon_Fett posted:
If Mace was smart, he would have told the order to scramble to Ossus or somewhere and told the Temple to evacuate before they go try to cut down a known Sith Lord who runs the galaxy and has millions of troops at his disposal.
yep. but we like to rush things when facing danger, don't we. we are wise and we just run into the trap.

they are just incompetent, i guess.

 

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Master_Starwalker 
Registered: Sep '03
17797_Yoda
Date Posted: 1/12/06 12:34pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
darth_frared posted:
Tiershon_Fett posted:
If Mace was smart, he would have told the order to scramble to Ossus or somewhere and told the Temple to evacuate before they go try to cut down a known Sith Lord who runs the galaxy and has millions of troops at his disposal.
yep. but we like to rush things when facing danger, don't we. we are wise and we just run into the trap.

they are just incompetent, i guess.


Mace however did almost handle Sidious, there also wasn't necessarily enough time to evacuate the entire temple before going to deal with him. There's also the fact that it would conspicious if all of a sudden all the Jedi save 4 go off planet. With what the Jedi knew, they could handle the Sith considering that a Padawan handled the Sith Apprentice and Yoda was winning against Dooku until Dooku ran, they'd have little reason to believe that Mace(who seems to have been placed at about Yoda's level power wise) and 3 of the Order's best swordsmen can't handle a lone Sith Lord.

They also were right that Mace could, as he did beat Sidious and if Anakin hadn't been there, prophecy aside Palpatine would have died. Mace also seems to have by this point lost all belief in the prophecy.

JASTERSLEGACEYV2 posted:
i did'nt say they wanted reward, but if they say they just defeated the 2 most powerful beings in the galaxy by them selfs then thats better than some reward, face i the jedi r a corrupt band of weaklings


The Jedi weren't corrupt at this point, what they wanted was to bring peace to the Galaxy and destroy the Sith. The fact of the matter is Obi-Wan and Yoda were the only Jedi left who had fought Sith before and Obi-Wan was the only one who had killed one. They were the best candidates and the other Jedi may have gotten in the way or betrayed them as Anakin did Mace.

 

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TrueJedi 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 1:21pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
Palpy would not have been able to take out all those Jedi if there was more fighting room. Palpy took advantage of the limited space in his office and slashed all the Jedi except for Mace. Much like a snake and a mongoose. A mongoose will win almost everytime when given space to fight, but in close quarters, the snake has the advantage.

 

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JASTERSLEGACEYV2 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 3:08pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
darth-sinister posted:
The Jedi are not corrupt. They don't care about any kudos. All they care about is ending the Sith's regin of terror.

considering ur name is DARTH sinister i would think you'd b leaning towrads the dark side, also The sith's "regin of terror" had'nt even begun and if it wer'nt 4 the rebelian , thr would be peace and prosperity through out the galaxy, also with such a smert leadder as he's proven 2 be then his reign would be lasting, peaceful, and prosperous, as compared 2 if the rebels took the empire down then thr would be hundereds of years of civil war due 2 weak leadreship, as u can c the so called dark side is acually the good side.

 

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Warsie 
Registered: Oct '05
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 3:45pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
TomPiltoff posted:
Because a whole load of good it did Mace.


Mace would've won. He was trying to capture him, the Jedi were in defense until they died. then Mace took the offensive

[quote]Any Jedi Interceptors coming out of hyperspace near Coruscant would've been shot out of the sky within minutes.[/quote]

considering how the Jedi (Anakin, Obi-wan and others) survived the second Battle of Coruscant, they'll do decent.

 

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Master_Starwalker 
Registered: Sep '03
17797_Yoda
Date Posted: 1/12/06 4:54pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
JASTERSLEGACEYV2 posted:
darth-sinister posted:
The Jedi are not corrupt. They don't care about any kudos. All they care about is ending the Sith's regin of terror.

considering ur name is DARTH sinister i would think you'd b leaning towrads the dark side, also The sith's "regin of terror" had'nt even begun and if it wer'nt 4 the rebelian , thr would be peace and prosperity through out the galaxy, also with such a smert leadder as he's proven 2 be then his reign would be lasting, peaceful, and prosperous, as compared 2 if the rebels took the empire down then thr would be hundereds of years of civil war due 2 weak leadreship, as u can c the so called dark side is acually the good side.


False. Dark Siders have destroyed star systems, enslaved multiple races, caused the wars in the prequels thus interupting the peace that had been maintained by the Jedi, slaughtered children, killed their wives, manipulated a war between two sides in order to gain power and thus caused a massive loss of life, and taken the Force out of balance among other things.

The Sith had also had a reign of terror thousands of years before the movies. There also hasn't been hundreds of years of civil war after the destruction of the empire there's been about 35 with breaks in places. There's also the fact that before the Jedi oppressed the Galaxy there had been over a millenia of peace.

The Dark Side is as evil as the Jedi say it is.

 

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Alpha-Red 
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 8:38pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
darth-sinister posted:
There wasn't a reason to. Four Jedi would've been enough to arrest Palpatine. Nor did they even consider Order 66. Besides, Palpatine knows about Ossus and the other Jedi strongholds.


Remember how Mace said "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi"? I'm pretty sure that he knew Sidious (whom he knew by then was part of Palpatine's inner circle) was up to something. He probably didn't know the details of Order 66, but he did know that if he didn't take out Palapatine soon, the Jedi would be in for a lot of trouble.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 1/12/06 11:35pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
JASTERSLEGACEYV2 posted:
considering ur name is DARTH sinister i would think you'd b leaning towrads the dark side, also The sith's "regin of terror" had'nt even begun and if it wer'nt 4 the rebelian , thr would be peace and prosperity through out the galaxy, also with such a smert leadder as he's proven 2 be then his reign would be lasting, peaceful, and prosperous, as compared 2 if the rebels took the empire down then thr would be hundereds of years of civil war due 2 weak leadreship, as u can c the so called dark side is acually the good side.


Just cause I use a Sith name doesn't mean I buy into their properganda. There would not be peace and prosperity in the galaxy. There would be tyranny and oppression, just as their was a thousand years ago.

Alpha-Red posted:
Remember how Mace said "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi"? I'm pretty sure that he knew Sidious (whom he knew by then was part of Palpatine's inner circle) was up to something. He probably didn't know the details of Order 66, but he did know that if he didn't take out Palapatine soon, the Jedi would be in for a lot of trouble.


Yes, that much Mace knew. But he didn't realize that he was setting up a grand trap. They all walked right into that one, because they underestimated him and his corruption of Anakin.

 

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mastersith69 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/13/06 6:45am Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
my guess is obi wan and yoda wanted the to go by themselves because obi wan was well matched with anakin and yoda with sidious, plus if they had failed there would be other jedi in hiding to pass along what they have learned.

or course yoda and obiwan thought all hope was lost until padme was brought there with the children and they saw a chance of in the future being able to defeat the sith with luke.

 

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Kirk_Kanos 
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 1/13/06 7:46am Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
Surely it was the only option, after all wouldn't Yoda have felt in the force that the Jedi where all but destroyed, so it would have been suicide to call any of them back to the temple, if any others where in fact alive. Plus how would they have co-orrdinated any kind of attack they could all have arrived at different times and being taking out one by one. the distress becon had to be changed

 

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SHAD0W-JEDI 
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 1/13/06 10:04am Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."

Personally, I loved ROTS and think it did an amazing job of briding to the final three movies. That being said, certain things HAD to happen. The Emperor and Vader had to survive, and essentially "win". No matter what Yoda and Obi Wan "did", we have to end up in the ANH universe, with Yoda in exile on Dagobah, Obi Wan in seclusion on Tatooine, the Emperor and Vader in control, and, as far as we know, no other Jedi on the loose at that point.

I agree, it would have been more satisfying to many of us if Yoda and Obi Wan had had a LONG talk at the end of ROTS. I don't know how satisfying it would have been CINEMATICALLY, but it would have been nice if GL had had Yoda explain to Obi Wan why hiding (rather than joining the nascent rebellion, for example) was a good idea. Why exile for Yoda was a good idea...and so on. The "loose ends" will provide fodder for SW fans, forever... which is not a bad thing, really.

BUT, in practical movie terms... I think the end of ROTS did a pretty good job of bringing closure to the prequels and preparing the viewer for ANH...

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JASTERSLEGACEYV2 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 1/13/06 1:44pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
Master_Starwalker posted:
JASTERSLEGACEYV2 posted:
darth-sinister posted:
The Jedi are not corrupt. They don't care about any kudos. All they care about is ending the Sith's regin of terror.

considering ur name is DARTH sinister i would think you'd b leaning towrads the dark side, also The sith's "regin of terror" had'nt even begun and if it wer'nt 4 the rebelian , thr would be peace and prosperity through out the galaxy, also with such a smert leadder as he's proven 2 be then his reign would be lasting, peaceful, and prosperous, as compared 2 if the rebels took the empire down then thr would be hundereds of years of civil war due 2 weak leadreship, as u can c the so called dark side is acually the good side.


Matser_starwalker posted:

False. Dark Siders have destroyed star systems, enslaved multiple races, caused the wars in the prequels thus interupting the peace that had been maintained by the Jedi, slaughtered children, killed their wives, manipulated a war between two sides in order to gain power and thus caused a massive loss of life, and taken the Force out of balance among other things.

The Sith had also had a reign of terror thousands of years before the movies. There also hasn't been hundreds of years of civil war after the destruction of the empire there's been about 35 with breaks in places. There's also the fact that before the Jedi oppressed the Galaxy there had been over a millenia of peace.

The Dark Side is as evil as the Jedi say it is.




wat i mean by the dark side is i'm talking about the dark side during the galactic civil war, think about it: what would happen if the rebels won the galactic civil war? centuries of un ending war, thats what, and the only 2 resons the empire seems so evil is one GOERGE LUCUS, the director/ producer can make any thing look good if that is the main character or characters,2 they did'nt even give the empire a chance, if they had they would see that it is'nt a bad thing, the rebels are so single minded they don't even have a plan for after the empire is over thrown, ANYONE who is inlegue with the rebels, or simpatheses with them 1 needs there brains checked out to see what's wrong and why they are so single minded, 2 if there's nothing wrong then they need to be let up to date 3 if they still simpathize with them, there's nothing left that we can do.

 

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JASTERSLEGACEYV2 
Registered: Nov '05
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Date Posted: 1/13/06 1:56pm Subject: RE: "I've recalibrated the code warning all surviving Jedi to stay away."
darth-sinister posted:
JASTERSLEGACEYV2 posted:
considering ur name is DARTH sinister i would think you'd b leaning towrads the dark side, also The sith's "regin of terror" had'nt even begun and if it wer'nt 4 the rebelian , thr would be peace and prosperity through out the galaxy, also with such a smert leadder as he's proven 2 be then his reign would be lasting, peaceful, and prosperous, as compared 2 if the rebels took the empire down then thr would be hundereds of years of civil war due 2 weak leadreship, as u can c the so called dark side is acually the good side.


Just cause I use a Sith name doesn't mean I buy into their properganda. There would not be peace and prosperity in the galaxy. There would be tyranny and oppression, just as their was a thousand years ago.


i count three mistakes in there
1 there is no sith propaganda, what your thinking of is the holonet news that is diluted by the rebels to make it look like propaganda
2 why would a super genius want his tax paying people 2 suffer when there is no call for it? the only reason for the strict policys is the rebellian, they bring on there own discontent wich is good for there cause. (you can see were this is going)
3 the true sith died out a milenia ago it's only the sith beleif that palpatine/mal/doku/vader follow, if they were true sith; 1 doku wiould'nt have been trained as a jedi 2 anikan would kill his son without second thought, so following that you can't compare the sith followers of the galactic civil war to the origonal 1's who caused mass havoc and cruelty.

on a last note, unity will bring peace, look at the E.U.(not expanded universe; European Union) today for example, the wars and hatred that once filled europe are now gone in the E.U., thats what would happen in the empire if they would win the galactic civil war.

 

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