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jasperjones
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1/12/06 10:49am
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Just to be totally fair, you could factor in the law of diminishing returns. By the time of ROTS you looking at a 5th sequel. There aren't many franchises that last that well, the police academy saga not withstanding.
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Ekenobi
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1/12/06 10:53am
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Go-Mer-Tonic posted:
CJedi72 ,
You are comparing the box offices of the prequels to the classic trilogy, which has had several re-releases since it first came out.
Let's see where things are in another 20 years.
Ekenobi,
The way you can compare a different number of reviews is to take their averages.
Just because there weren't as many reviews back in the day doesn't change the fact that the prequels ended up with a higher percentage of praise.
And the people's choice award just bolsters the idea that your average every day person just isn't represented by the critical community.
You are correct Go Mer. I also did not read the rest of the article. It does a better comparison with the reviews from the original release.
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jasperjones
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1/12/06 11:00am
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It will be interesting to see what the kids who love the PT as they grow up make of it in 20 years. I think for their generation the saga will be pretty much level. Those nostalgia free reviews from 30 plus year olds are really interesting.
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darth-sinister
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1/12/06 11:19am
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Let's get back on topic. Take box office discussions elsewhere. And a final note, Lucas isn't interested in appeasing us. He's interested in appeasing himself. Hence he will not re-release the O-OT ever again. If he did, he would've done it last year. But he's not interested in that. He's pretty firm that he won't put them out again.
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tuskinraiderfromhell
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1/12/06 11:40am
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What the **** does all this have to do with the Fact that SITH won for best picture? Can't you "Fans?" just appreciate that a Star Wars movie finally won a best picture award? Is it so hard to say: "Good job George, cast and crew, well done. It's about time."
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tuskinraiderfromhell
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Use your asteriks when swearing.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
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CJedi72
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1/12/06 12:26pm
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darth-sinister posted:
Let's get back on topic. Take box office discussions elsewhere. And a final note, Lucas isn't interested in appeasing us. He's interested in appeasing himself. Hence he will not re-release the O-OT ever again. If he did, he would've done it last year. But he's not interested in that. He's pretty firm that he won't put them out again.
Come on man, you and I don't know what he'll do in the next 10-20 years for the saga in his releases. It's disingenious for you to say he will NEVER release it. We just don't know.
Remember for the past 10 years, he has worked on the PT, I don't think he wanted to bother even putting out the OT SE DVD's in 2004, I mean he resisted that for a long time. Fans were screaming for the OT DVD, any version since DVD's inception in 1997. But he knew it would be a good way to get everyone hyped for ROTS, hence putting the Episode III documentary on the extras disc. Just like rereleasing the OT VHS in 2000 and put a 10 minute AOTC featurette on it. Again, to say he NEVER will put it is out. You may be right, or I may be right, only time will tell.
OK back to the topic.
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WormieSaber
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1/12/06 1:01pm
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Lucas is only guilty of expressing emotions at the high moment. What else is he going to say? "Thanks. I make movies for myself. You hear that Harrison? INDY 4 is for myself!!"
The fact that it won is a given to me. That movie rocked the house down.
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TrueJedi
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1/12/06 1:05pm
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CJedi72 posted:
Lucas starts his speech out with: "Star Wars has never won many awards"
The last time I checked the original Star Wars was nominated for 10 Academy Awards including: Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actor (Alec Guiness).
That night it took home 7 Academy Awards, but was the first fantasy/scifi/action movie to win awards like that in movie history. That was an amazing night for that type of movie when most movies nominated, even including the present day, are usually heavy dramas, epics, or independent movies.
George, The original SW won those awards that night because it is a great movie, and you shouldn't diminish that because the movies after didn't get nominated as much.
I wonder if Lucas has selective memory to constantly play up the angle that the critics never love his movies......
It scares me when GL gets senile like that. He might just go ahead and forget yet another continuity issue during one of his senility attacks.
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Go-Mer-Tonic
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1/12/06 1:42pm
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He's not downplaying the grandure of ANH, he is just pointing out that the rest of the movies in the series were completely snubbed.
This is mostly because after ANH he told Hollywood to go screw itself. Ever since, he has been wrongfully snubbed by just about every Hollywood institution there is.
They even snubbed Williams for ESB's score saying that they couldn't consider him because ESB was essentially the same as Star Wars. In their mind it would have been like giving him another award for the same musical score.
Of course when Peter Jackson makes a trilogy, they have no problem awarding Howard Shore an award for each movie.
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yoshifett
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tuskinraiderfromhell posted:
What the **** does all this have to do with the Fact that SITH won for best picture? Can't you "Fans?" just appreciate that a Star Wars movie finally won a best picture award? Is it so hard to say: "Good job George, cast and crew, well done. It's about time."
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No, these people aren't fans, they are wannabe critics. That's it.
They know how the movies should have been, and if they made them, I'm sure they would have been so awesome!  I'm serious! Go read some of the fanfics! THEY ARE AWESOME! 
No thanks, I like Star Wars, and that's why I'm here. 
If your here for some other reason, then you need a new hobbie.
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hawk
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1/12/06 2:05pm
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You act like during the 70's and 80's people were reading by candlelight and using outhouses. There were plenty of papers and plenty of trade magazines back then.
No, I am saying that many of those reviews are not available today so we don't have any idea what the films would have gotten.
That lil' study done by Rotten Tomatoes drives some folks nuts and it never fails to make me chuckle.
It drives me nuts - as someone trained in science - when people take flimsy evidence and frame it to support their argument. There are only a handful of reviews for the OT. With only a handful of reviews, you are getting useless evidence. Every film on Rottentomatoes fluctuates until at least 50 or 60 reviews come in. How do you justify that then?
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rhonderoo
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1/12/06 2:15pm
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Okay, well, I guess we aren't going to get back on topic. This can be continued in the Awards and Nominations thread.
It's a shame we can't just be happy with this one thing.
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