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Old_Zen
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1/12/06 12:05pm
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"Your ship is waiting."
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Obi Wan witnessed the Separtist high council boarding their ship preparing to depart to Mustafar under Grievous orders, as he was spying upon them on Utapau with Boga..if he had been a few minutes early, he would have heard they were going to Mustafar. Is this a flaw on Palpatine's part or Grievous? I mean why did he wait so long to haul Nute and the gang away form Utapau when he should have done this in the begening of the movie when Sidious orders him to, why didin't do it then? My only conclusion is that these two events (Obi Wan spying and Grievous briefing Separtist) Happen at different points in time. I just watched ROTS again this afternoon and many questions dawned upon me. This is one of them.
Anyone wanna try to answer this one? 
EDIT: Oh! And why did'nt Obi Wan attempt to attack or arrest them (Gunray, etc) as well as Grievous?
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darth_frared
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1/12/06 12:14pm
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yeah it was hugely annoying he was just a minute too late to actually know where grievous is shipping the people. no, seriously.
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yoshifett
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Why would this be a flaw on Grievous or Palpatine's part? Do you think Palpatine REALLY cares about keeping the separatists alive? Do you think Grievous cares?
And Obi-Wan wasn't going to jump down and attack the separatist leaders. They are not what the Jedi would consider to be military targets. They can't really defend themselves. The only one who would be willing to slaughter the separatist was Anakin. Which, of course, he did.
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darth-sinister
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1/12/06 12:19pm
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It took a while to get the Separatist Council to Mustafar, because arrangements had to be made. Facilities put into place. These things take time. Obi-wan couldn't move in to arrest them, because he was alone and they would be gone before the Fleet arrived. There are ten thousand Battle Droids, four Magnaguards and Grievous. Obi-wan's outnumbered. All he was doing was buying time for back-up to arrive.
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WitchKing66
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1/12/06 12:32pm
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^^^^
All he was doing was buying time for back-up to arrive.
yet he decided to jump in the midst of battledriods and engage Greviou. Wether he get out of that situation alive is entirely dependent on Grevious's decision to fight Kenobi man-to-man otherwise Army or not, he was doomed
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TopSpeeD
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1/12/06 12:47pm
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WitchKing66 posted:
^^^^
All he was doing was buying time for back-up to arrive.
yet he decided to jump in the midst of battledriods and engage Greviou. Wether he get out of that situation alive is entirely dependent on Grevious's decision to fight Kenobi man-to-man otherwise Army or not, he was doomed
Yup,that's Kenobi
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TrueJedi
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1/12/06 1:31pm
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TopSpeeD posted:
WitchKing66 posted:
^^^^
All he was doing was buying time for back-up to arrive.
yet he decided to jump in the midst of battledriods and engage Greviou. Wether he get out of that situation alive is entirely dependent on Grevious's decision to fight Kenobi man-to-man otherwise Army or not, he was doomed
Yup,that's Kenobi
Once again proving that the hero of the PT is Obi Wan and the PT really is about him.
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Super_Battle_Droid
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1/12/06 1:42pm
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Tion Medon could've even told Obi-Wan the Separatist Leaders were there.
Was he helping them, and knew they were going to leave?
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RolandofGilead
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Yoda: (to Luke) You are reckless!
Obi-wan: So was I if you remember.
Jumping into the middle of things is Obi-wan's M.O. Judging from what we've seen in the entire saga:
*PM- Qui-gon and Obi-wan walk right into the Naboo Hanger to save the Queen's pilots
*AotC- Obi-wan jumps through a window to nab an assasn Droid
*RotS- Obi-wan jumps into the middle of Grievous' army of droids
*RotJ- Luke walks into Jabba's palace alone and unarmed and demands his friends be set free
Apparently, that's what Jedi do.
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voodoopuuduu
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Apparently, that's what Jedi do.
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mjerome3
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His instructions was to kill General Grevious. Nothing more. Perhaps he could have told Mace and the Council about the Separatists move to Mustafar but the movie never shows Obi-Wan contacting the Council to inform them about Grevious's demise. It only shows Mace telling Anakin that they'd received word that Kenobi destroyed Grevious.
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Alpha-Red
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Yeah, Grievous was the most important Seperatist leader, so he had to be taken out. According to the novel, Obi-Wan himself suggests letting the other leaders run free while the Jedi concentrated on Grievous. Ultimately, the goal was to take out Grievous so Mace could finally press Palpatine to return emergency powers to the Senate, by force if neccessary.
I guess if Order 66 didn't happen, the Obi-Wan could just get the next lead on to where the Seperatists were.
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1/12/06 10:45pm
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Who do you think Obi-Wan is, Anakin Skywalker? He wouldn't have killed the Seperatists, they were defenseless. Now as for why he did not go after them and capture them. Did you happen to miss the scene where right below him was about a hundred droids, including General Grevious and his Magna guards? He had to deal with the threat first...
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Old_Zen
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Oh and here is another question...
"Chancellor Palpatine thinks General Grivous is on Utapau."
"A diplomatic packett was intercepted from the chairmen of Utapau."
Was it really? We know Palpaitne already knows Grievous is on Utapau, I mean he IS Darth Sidious..but...if told Anakin that his Clone intellegence units have discovered the location of Grievous...so why did Anakin say he got it form Tion Meddan..when it seems Tion Meddan wasen't even expecting the Jedi (Obi Wan) to come...huh?
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darth-sinister
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Apparently Tion Meddon sent out a packett to wherever, when it's intercepted by Clone Intelligence. Palpatine tells Anakin this, who tells the Council. When Obi-wan first arrives on Utapau, Tion pretends that Grievous isn't there. Then he gets in close and tells him the truth. He was expecting help the whole time.
TlON MEDON: "Greetings, young Jedi. What brings you to our remote sanctuary?"
OBI-WAN: "Unfortunately, the war."
TlON MEDON: "There is no war here unless you've brought it with you."
OBI-WAN: "With your kind permission, I should like some fuel and to use your city as a base as I search nearby systems for General Grievous."
A GROUND CREW rushes out and refuels Obi-Wan’s Fighter. TION MEDON leans close to OBI-WAN and speaks quietly.
TlON MEDON: "He is here! We are being held hostage. They are watching us."
OBI-WAN: "I understand."
TlON MEDON: "The tenth level . . . thousands of Battle Droids . . ."
OBI-WAN: "Tell your people to take shelter. If you have warriors, now is the time."
Unlike Kamino, Obi-wan knew that he was expected and acted accordingly.
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Bacon164
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1/13/06 11:09pm
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I think it was actually in the original script that had the scene where Grievous orders the Council off to Mustafar placed right before the meeting with Sidious. It was atleast this way in the comic book, and the novel, if I recall correctly.
I had heard that the scene was placed later in the film during editing, and Ewan did some pick-ups to make it fit, though I'm really not sure.
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