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SAND-CRAWLER Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 1/12/06 4:21pm Subject: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	I asked this a long time ago because I noticed it during my third viewing in the theatre but no one could confirm it. Now I believe it's been confirmed. Vader's eyes ARE yellow as the Mask goes on. It's only in ONE shot and it lasts but a moment, but his eyes are yellow. Here's the shot: Compare that shot with the one before: As you can see, his eyes are normal and dark but just before the mask seals his eyes are Sith yellow and he's filled with the darkside. I really like this shot and it struck me in the theatre. It gives new meaning to the scene where Luke takes his mask off in RotJ and his eyes aren't yellow anymore. He says "Let me look at you with my OWN eyes". It's a statement that has a dual meaning. First, he's saying "let me look at you without the red display of the mask", and second he's saying "let me look at you through my natural eyes and not my darkside eyes". Vader's eyes have been yellow under that mask from the moment before it sealed to the moment when he tossed Palpatine into the reactor shaft. -----signature----- Darth Vader clawing his way on the lava bank is THE Sand-Crawler.
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BothofUs Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 1/12/06 4:23pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	applaudes -----signature----- "What's that flashing?!" "Your focus determines your reality" "And in time of greatest despair there shall come a savior and he shall be known as: THE SON OF THE SUN" ("Journal of the Whills," 3:12)
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RolandofGilead Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 1/12/06 4:33pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	That's... just so... beautiful! ~sniff! -----signature----- Satan's not in a guitar pick, he's inside all of us. In here, in your hearts. He's what makes us not want to go to work, or exercise, or tell the truth. He's that little voice in your mind that says "**** you" to the people you hate.
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Chewbacca_11 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 1/12/06 4:34pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Yeah, I see what you mean. Good point. -----signature----- Going somewhere, Solo? May the scwartz be with you.
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DroidGeneral Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 1/12/06 5:20pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Yea, I don't see ****. -----signature----- "The Force will be with you, always." "Star Wars isn't dead."-George Lucas Ron Paul 2008
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Icebreaker Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 1/12/06 5:43pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Hmmm...doesn't look yellow to me. Take 'er easy -matt
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Obi-Chron Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:13pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	[throws red challenge flag] UPON FURTHER REVIEW -- the shot of Vaderkin is from the side, so the color of the iris would not be as discernable as a 'head on' shot. But comparing the 'birth' shot with an immolation scene photo posted below, Vaderkin's Sith eyes have a discernable 'red ring' around the yellow iris. That is not at all evident in the 'birth' scene for Vader side-shot. The apparent yellow could simply be a result of the side view of a brown iris. I do like the premise behind this thread -- no fear, only anger, pain, hate and the darkside! Just need better proof. -----signature----- “The dark night of the soul comes just before revelation." ~ Joseph Campbell “It is by going down into the abyss that we recover the treasure of The Phantom Menace..." ~ SithStarSlayer
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PowerUnlimitedPower Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:15pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Nice idea , but Nah. his eyes look Really really bloodshot to me. he's just been through hell . i don't see them as yellow. IMO. -----signature----- My opinions may change , but not the fact that I'm right. Follow the link ........http://outerrimsieges.com/
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YYZ-2112 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:41pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	As much as I thought his eyes should have been fully yellow like Sidious' before the mask goes on, I don't see it in this shot. It is in my opineon how it should've been though. The clear indicator that he was no longer engulfed in darkness would have been nice to see on screen when Return of the Jedi has Anakin unmasked in contrast to yellow eyes and the mask being put on in ROTS. Then again maybe his eyes not being yellow at all times is intended to be proof positive that's he not fully corrupted, perhaps this is why Dooku never had yellow eyes; to express this point about some of the Sith Apprentices. It's kind of a catch 22. EDIT: Anyway to be honest, I think if Lucas intended this connected it wouldn't have been done in such a subtle way. His eyes would have shifted to yellow in the frontal shot. It would look more dynamic cinematically and sent the message Lucas wanted. -----signature----- "You were right about one thing Master. The negotiations WERE short." "Story is about principles, not rules. Anxious, inexperienced writers obey rules. Rebellious, unschooled writers break rules. Artists master the form." Robert McKee
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Cryogenic Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:45pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	The hate-filled, animalistic Sith eyes of Maul and Sidious only appear momentarily in Vader's complexion - immediately after his slaughter of the Separatists, where he is filled with satisfaction and is intoxicated by the Dark Side, and when he is clawing his way up the bank, expressing his contempt for Obi Wan. There are no other instances of Sith eyes on Vader. Those shots have convinced me of this all the more. I'm not seeing what you're seeing, Sand Crawler. Why would Anakin be filled with such feral intensity at that moment, anyway? He's a broken and battered man - deeply traumatised, both mentally and physically, wreathed in agony and fear, uncertain and apprehensive of this mechanised mask descending to consume his face and deprive his eyes of seeing for years to come. All beauty and meaning has gone out of his world. The hatefulness only returns when he learns of Padme's death, but just prior to that moment, I sense only solemn pity and regret. -----signature----- I have a great admiration for George. These films are very well-intentioned. All right, they make tremendous amounts of money and appeal to kids, but they say good things, and they say them in a broad way. I believe in the Star Wars films. - Ian McDiarmid
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yoshifett Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:46pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Yeah, Anakin didn't look filled with rage in that scene, he looked in pain, and scared.
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:47pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	I think Hayden actually had Vader meekly mouth "No" when the mask was coming down in that scene. That being the case, his eyes wouldn't be yellow as he was full of regret. Now I might be willing to believe that his eyes went blazing yellow under his mask before screaming "Noooooooo" but they just don't look yellow to me in the photos above. -----signature----- My STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Visit me on Livejournal! http://rkc-erika.livejournal.com/
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Cryogenic Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:57pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	PadmeLeiaJaina posted: I think Hayden actually had Vader meekly mouth "No" when the mask was coming down in that scene. That being the case, his eyes wouldn't be yellow as he was full of regret. He did? I'll have to watch that sequence again. By the way, PadmeLeiaJaina, I very much appreciated your analysis of the Anakin/Padme romance, as it pertains to the most woefully misunderstood scenes of Episode II. I have problems with Attack of the Clones, but aside from some monotonous deliveries by - of all people - Ian McDiarmid, my complaints are almost exclusively confined to more technical issues (namely, soundmixing, score tracking and CG use). I've never remotely disliked the Anakin/Padme romance and always roll my eyes whenever I see other people deriding it as being "unrealistic", "dull" and "cheesy". But that's another thread... -----signature----- I have a great admiration for George. These films are very well-intentioned. All right, they make tremendous amounts of money and appeal to kids, but they say good things, and they say them in a broad way. I believe in the Star Wars films. - Ian McDiarmid
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Super_Battle_Droid Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/12/06 6:59pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	Mmmm BBQ. -----signature----- "Sir, over there, the Jedi is escaping." - Battle Droid "Not likely." - Super Battle Droid "Open this door and I'll buy you a planet!" - Viceroy Nute Gunray.
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brook_33 Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 1/12/06 9:11pm Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	That's pretty sweet. I thought I saw that too, but I never really looked into it. -----signature----- I'm one of those Fan Filmers that writes a ton of amazing scripts and never films them
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battlewars Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 1/13/06 12:29am Subject: RE: Vader has Yellow Eyes as the Mask goes on.
	anakin reminds me of david banner right before he turned into the hulk with those eyes
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