Author Topic: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Seperatist 
Registered: Apr '05
14562_Count Dooku
Date Posted: 1/25/06 10:53am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
HookLineAndSinker posted:
MaserPatsatsa posted:
From all the jedi losing their hands in the saga he is the only one not even opening his mouth to say ouch-and he looses both hands.
windu -worse then a baby ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
luke- tougher but still weeping
anakin-i do not remmber that good but i think he shouts or something

So there you go Dooku is one tough SOB



Dooku originally had scripted dialogue but Christopher Lee didn't think it was in his character to beg for his life. So they filmed it with him saying nothing. But... his stand-in can clearly be seen shaking his head to Anakin as if to say "please don't kill me" during that scene.

Also Anakin didn't scream when his arm was chopped off. Vader screans when his hand is chopped off by Luke in ROTJ though.

Darth Maul doesn't really scream when he gets cut in half. But then again, I suppose that might have been hard to do after he was cut in the mid section.


I don't think Dooku is shaking his head to say ''please don't kill me'', it could just be that Dooku is actually trying to prevent Anakin from going down the dark path. So he's trying to help Anakin to become a better Jedi and at the same time he'll survive. For him the blades cut on both sides.(Maybe not the best way to put it!)

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yoshifett 
Registered: Apr '04
7276_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 1/25/06 11:26am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
I actually think that Mace's screams add a lot to an already tension-filled and dramatic scene. When he screams, it really means something. This is the point of no return for the Jedi. Those who watch the film unspoiled were shocked at what went down in this scene, and Mace's screams just added to the insanity. And I mean that in a good way.

 

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Palpy560 
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 1/25/06 11:54am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Yes, Mace, we'll miss you buddy. cry

I think all Dooku let out was an "OOO. angry " But it was more out of anger than pain. Dooku is a pretty tough senior. mischief

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 1/25/06 12:11pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Each scream is based on what the actor feels is necessary. Jackson wanted it to be agony. Hamill gave one yell and then shut up. Hayden just grunted. Jones gave a loud "AHHH" and that was that. Lee didn't want to beg or scream.

 

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Adm_Thrawn 
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 1/25/06 12:16pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
I can't imagine Christopher Lee screaming at anything.

 

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Darth_Ogawa 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 1/25/06 12:25pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Palpy560 posted:
Dooku is a pretty tough senior. mischief

Yes! Dooku has the old man strength!

 

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mjerome3 
Registered: May '00
42242_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 1/25/06 9:01pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Some people have a highest tolerance for pain than others. Their stimulus is different from other people. When Vader and Luke get their hands sliced, they scream. When Anakin gets his arm lopped off, he doesn't yell at all. When Qui-Gon gets stabbed, his facial expression tells what he's feeling, but he doesn't even as much as wince. When Mace Windu get his hand cut off, he yells in pain. Everyone is different.

 

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andkiich 
Registered: Jul '05
Date Posted: 1/26/06 9:36am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Anakin doesn't tell when he gets his arm chopped off because Dooku force pushes him and knocks him out.

 

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jedi_jacks 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 1/26/06 11:28am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Hmmm, I think Dooku was prepared for a hit by anakin, somewhat - he is engaging in the fight. But Mace Windu didn't prepare to be betrayed by anakin, I think the betrayal hurt him more than anakin's wild hack.

Oh, plus, isn't the scene with dooku creepier because he's silent (kinda stoic). And isn't the scene with Mace Windu twice as bad with Mace Windu howling. They both are imprinted on my mind. GL has this psychological thing going in RotS.

 

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darth-sinister 
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Date Posted: 1/26/06 11:34am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
When Dooku cuts off Anakin's arm, he gives a loud grunt and then is Force pushed very hard.

 

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brook_33 
Registered: Dec '03
6107_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 1/26/06 12:22pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Christopher Lee is too old to scream. The best he could get out would be a small fart.

 

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Chancellor_Ewok 
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 1/26/06 12:27pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
MaserPatsatsa posted:
From all the jedi losing their hands in the saga he is the only one not even opening his mouth to say ouch-and he looses both hands.
windu -worse then a baby ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
luke- tougher but still weeping
anakin-i do not remmber that good but i think he shouts or something

So there you go Dooku is one tough SOB


Dooku is tough, but Anakin is tougher. Dooku lit Anakin up with Force lightening and cut off his sword arm at the elbow and Anakin didn't make a sound. Dooku owned Anakin and Anakin still got up and kicked his ass.

 

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DarthJuggalo 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 1/26/06 1:39pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Chancellor_Ewok posted:
MaserPatsatsa posted:
From all the jedi losing their hands in the saga he is the only one not even opening his mouth to say ouch-and he looses both hands.
windu -worse then a baby ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
luke- tougher but still weeping
anakin-i do not remmber that good but i think he shouts or something

So there you go Dooku is one tough SOB


Dooku is tough, but Anakin is tougher. Dooku lit Anakin up with Force lightening and cut off his sword arm at the elbow and Anakin didn't make a sound. Dooku owned Anakin and Anakin still got up and kicked his ass.


Watch AotC again. When Anakin gets hit by Dooku's lightining he yells in pain. When Dooku cuts his arm off, he makes very little noise if nothing at all but he is rendered unconcious.

Which brings up my question.

Is he knocked unconcious by the "Force Push", or is it from the pain/shock of losing an arm?

 

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Darth_BamBam 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 1/26/06 3:57pm Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Here you go - lightsabers are so hot they kill the nerves before they have a chance to register the pain.

I thought it was interesting that Vader made more "ouch" when Luke cut off his fake arm then when Dooku cut off his real one. And I cannot stand hearing Mace howl. I keep thinking "come on Sam, be a MAN!!" I know if I was ever struck by the Sith Lords lighning then thrown many hundreds of yards out a window with said lightning, diving towards my death, I wouldn't be whining.

 

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yoshifett 
Registered: Apr '04
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Date Posted: 1/29/06 11:40am Subject: RE: So count Dooku is the toughest of them all
Darth_BamBam posted:
Here you go - lightsabers are so hot they kill the nerves before they have a chance to register the pain.

I thought it was interesting that Vader made more "ouch" when Luke cut off his fake arm then when Dooku cut off his real one. And I cannot stand hearing Mace howl. I keep thinking "come on Sam, be a MAN!!" I know if I was ever struck by the Sith Lords lighning then thrown many hundreds of yards out a window with said lightning, diving towards my death, I wouldn't be whining.


Oh, I think you would!

 

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