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Master_EdgeCrusher
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1/27/06 9:27am
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When Mace died, why didn't any other Jedi other then Yoda not feel the the disturbance in the force? And as all the other jedi where being assasinated? Just Yoda, and not even the might Obi-Wan felt this? How so?
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lorn_zahl
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Master_EdgeCrusher posted:
When Mace died, why didn't any other Jedi other then Yoda not feel the the disturbance in the force? And as all the other jedi where being assasinated? Just Yoda, and not even the might Obi-Wan felt this? How so?
Well we just don't know because the other Jedi (besides Obi Wan) don't really have the chance to speak or relay their thoughts before they're killed as well.
Obi Wan was quite oblivious so it'd be reasonable to assume that Jedi who are not as powerful as Yoda, aren't as attuned to events going on across teh galaxy.
They aren't all-knowing beings, Yoda just comes close.
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Master_EdgeCrusher
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I see what you are saying, but how about do they not stop to feel this sense and then start to continue? Anyone with the knowledge of the force cannot just let it go to the wayside, without saying anything can they?
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voodoopuuduu
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When Mace died, why didn't any other Jedi other then Yoda not feel the the disturbance in the force? And as all the other jedi where being assasinated? Just Yoda, and not even the might Obi-Wan felt this? How so?
We never saw close-ups of the other Jedi at the exact time when Mace was killed, so we cant really be sure of their reactions. Obi-Wan was having his own problems at the time in the sinkhole.
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RolandofGilead
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1/27/06 11:00am
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I'd say it was because Yoda was more intuned to the living force. Like Obi-wan in ANH he felt their deaths one by one across the galaxy. I'd even venture to say that it was his link to the Living Force that saved his life where other Jedi remained ignorant.
As for Obi-wan. I can't say for sure. The book says Boga gave up her life for him, the movie just makes it look like the clones missed. I'd like to think it
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darth-sinister
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Yoda has spent the last three years learning from Qui-gon about getting in tune with the Living Force. In doing so, Yoda can sense a great disturbence in the Force. But it's not just Mace's death that he feels. He feels Anakin's turn to the Dark Side and the Force shifting out of balance. When Palpatine speaks to Anakin during the knightning scene, his voice takes on an other worldly quality. That is the Dark Side flowing through Palpatine, who is now backed by the unbalanced Force. Then he feels all the Jedi die at once. Apparently in the film and the eu, none of the Jedi sensed it.
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voodoopuuduu
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But it's not just Mace's death that he feels. He feels Anakin's turn to the Dark Side and the Force shifting out of balance.
Yeah, looking at Yodas reaction in the movie, we really cant objectively tell what is causing his problem. He didnt say anything. We can only speculate. It could be gas for all we know. 
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angus_r
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Good point: perhaps "feeling a great disturbance in the force" is actually just one great big euphemism for an attack of the windypops. It might well be the case that, in ANH, Obi Wan had no knowledge of what happened on Alderaan, but instead that dodgy-looking burger he ate in the cantina was finally impacting on his digestive system...you'll note also that everyone leaves the room pretty hurriedly at that point.
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voodoopuuduu
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...you'll note also that everyone leaves the room pretty hurriedly at that point.
Heh, no. I went back and looked. Actually Han Solo enters the room after that point. He must have discovered an incredible new smell.
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qui-gon-kim
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In AOTC when Yoda felt the disturbance in the Force during the Tusken slaughter, Obi-Wan didn't feel a thing. One could speculate that during his years of solitary training with Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan became powerful enough to feel Alderaan blow up.
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Master_Starwalker
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1/27/06 8:38pm
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voodoopuuduu posted:
...you'll note also that everyone leaves the room pretty hurriedly at that point.
Heh, no. I went back and looked. Actually Han Solo enters the room after that point. He must have discovered an incredible new smell.
Smells don't bother someone living in such close quarters with a Wookiee
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TH421
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Something to consider - The Jedi we see in the "Order 66" sequence are all engaged in fighting the end of the Clone War. That is, they are already using their Force sensitivity to focus on matters "here and now". Even if they sense a disturbance, remember the war has been going on, and Jedi dying in it, for about three years.
Yes, Yoda is an exceptionally gifted Jedi. In another twenty years, Obi-Wan will be, as well. But your average Jedi - even a master - is concentrating on his or her particular mission. Remember Qui-Gon's instruction to Obi-Wan when the latter sensed an elusive threat at the beginning of Episode I: "Don't center on your axieties. Concentrate on the here and now." Advice that, ordinarily to the point, I am sure, was in that case mistaken.
This is part of why the Clone War was such a vital part of the Sith strategy - keeping the Jedi overwhelmed and off-balance fighting a war (itself a kind of revenge against the peace-keepers), instead of sitting in remote sanctuaries communing with the Force for signs of disturbance.
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1/27/06 11:15pm
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voodoopuuduu posted:
But it's not just Mace's death that he feels. He feels Anakin's turn to the Dark Side and the Force shifting out of balance.
Yeah, looking at Yodas reaction in the movie, we really cant objectively tell what is causing his problem. He didnt say anything. We can only speculate. It could be gas for all we know.
Yoda: "A great disturbence in the Force, I feel. Come. My finger, you must pull."
Yeah, I went too far with that one. 
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only yoda could feel it
also only yoda know everythin that were gonna go down in the whole saga
and the jedi couldnt begin to understand
there clones had turned on them
pity it doesnt show you any survivors
if i saw a survivor and i was a jedi turned sith i would go up to them with my saber ignited being cautious and then stab them
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1/27/06 11:36pm
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I'm pretty sure Mace had an idea that something fishy was going on at that moment as well 
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1/28/06 3:11am
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"War Does not make one great."
"Only for defense, never for attack."
The other Jedi were charging into battles where millions of people all over the place were dying. they were used to feeling Death through the Force and didn't think much of it.
But think about this. Obi-Wan going to polish off a droid army, Aayla looking for an Ambush, Ki-Adi charging headlong into battle....they were all actually FIGHTING. They were ATTACKING, Waging WAR. Yoda was not. He was at Kasyyk to rally the wookies and Clones, not to fight a war for them. Yoda was not actively involved in battle and thus was able to contemplate the disturbance. The others were more intent on butchering droids.
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