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LordVader66  1797 posts
Registered: Aug '05
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Date Posted: 1/31/06 6:21pm Subject: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
The Republic was crumbling, the Senate was corrupt. The Jedi Order was tied to this dying republic that shouldnt have been protected. Chancellor Palpatine wanted to bring peace and order to the galaxy, nothing more. If the Senate and Jedi could not bring peace to the galaxy, then shouldn't someone else have an oppertunity? The arrogant Jedi would always think that they could do the best job, but at the time, wasn't the answer someone else? The Sith and Jedi could never coexist and the republic was not a functional political system. Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?

 

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Padme-Wan_SkyWindu  763 posts
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Date Posted: 1/31/06 6:45pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
Were changes necessary? Yes. Should those changes have been implemented through the extermination of an entire order of beings and the forceful takeover of free planets? No.

 

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voodoopuuduu  6882 posts
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48595_Chewbacca Brian
Date Posted: 1/31/06 7:02pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
Were changes necessary? Yes. Should those changes have been implemented through the extermination of an entire order of beings and the forceful takeover of free planets? No.



Remember, Alderaan wasnt destroyed by a non-Sith for another 20 years. Its hard to answer that question because we only see the OT from the view of the separatists. Other parts of the GFFA may have florished under the order of the Sith versus the disorder of the Republic.

 

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DUGGY  3646 posts
Registered: Apr '05
5995_Sebulba
Date Posted: 1/31/06 7:02pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
LordVader66 posted:
The Republic was crumbling, the Senate was corrupt. The Jedi Order was tied to this dying republic that shouldnt have been protected. Chancellor Palpatine wanted to bring peace and order to the galaxy, nothing more. If the Senate and Jedi could not bring peace to the galaxy, then shouldn't someone else have an oppertunity? The arrogant Jedi would always think that they could do the best job, but at the time, wasn't the answer someone else? The Sith and Jedi could never coexist and the republic was not a functional political system. Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?


You won't get a argument from me that the Jedi were arrogant buffoons, but don't forget that the Peace and security that Palpatine was promising was Peace and Security from him. Palpatine was the one who destabilized the Republic with the Trade Blockade of Naboo all the way to the Separatist movement. Sideous was not Right in Destroying the Jedi. He was doing what he thought was right. the Jedi were just to blind and unaware to realize it till the plan was already to far along to stop. silly Jedi.

 

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Padme-Wan_SkyWindu  763 posts
Registered: Jun '02
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Date Posted: 1/31/06 7:14pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
voodoopuuduu posted:
Were changes necessary? Yes. Should those changes have been implemented through the extermination of an entire order of beings and the forceful takeover of free planets? No.



Remember, Alderaan wasnt destroyed by a non-Sith for another 20 years. Its hard to answer that question because we only see the OT from the view of the separatists. Other parts of the GFFA may have florished under the order of the Sith versus the disorder of the Republic.


I'm not sure I understand the Alderaan reference. The beings I was referring to are the Jedi, and the "free planets" comment was a general reference to any planets in the galaxy that were free under the rule of the Republic, only to have those freedoms stripped away when it became the Empire. I understand your point about some planets possibly being more prosperous under Sith rule than Republic rule, though I think the majority of the galaxy hated the Empire. Luke said he hated it, and he was out there on Tatooine his whole life, far removed from the majority of its activities.

 

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voodoopuuduu  6882 posts
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48595_Chewbacca Brian
Date Posted: 1/31/06 7:28pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
Sideous was not Right in Destroying the Jedi. He was doing what he thought was right. And Im sure Sids thought that the Jedi did wrong destroying the Sith a millenium ago. grin Revenge of the Sith.

 

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TheCRZA  1645 posts
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 2/3/06 9:17pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
I won't say he was right, but I will say that the right thing was done.
Sometimes you have to burn down the village to save it.

 

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Lord_Pilaf  212 posts
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 2/3/06 9:23pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
For the intents and purposes of the Sith's revenge against the Jedi.. yes.

 

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Fettist  111 posts
Registered: Jan '06
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Date Posted: 2/3/06 11:41pm Subject: RE: Was Sidious Right In Destroying The Jedi Order And The Republic?
If one is to answer your question honestly then you must take time to understand institutions on at least a general level. Sidious, if he honestly wanted peace, was just another agent of corruption which coincided with anyone in his position’s desire for control and gain power. He was right in when he told Anakin that anyone with power only wants more power. So as he came into power thus started his position of leader in another institution of manipulation and control as the Jedi order and Republic were swept away.

As institutions are never perfect they all share other imperfections besides that basic one: They are made up of persons in positions of power who, at whatever level they maintain, lust for more and more power. Sidious plays a role in this new Empire (another institution driven by its interests: more power) that is so intoxicating that he can only in his mind justify what he does by saying he is spreading democracy and initiates policies that attempt to protect their self created idea that they must monopolize the use of violence for a “secure society”.

Now the Jedi were slightly different and more humane in that they were far more rational in their understanding of the world and in their justifications for the policies they followed.

Another realization that must be understood is that in no time in history will any galaxy, world, or country have peace. This can never happen when interests of institutions are contradictory to that of the people or species that exist within them…

 

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