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BothofUs
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2/2/06 4:15am
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Why would they ever pummel the Invisible Hand, the ship that the Chancellor is being held hostage on? Don't they know that two Jedi are trying to rescue him?
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DroidGeneral
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Communication error. Frequent in War. General "Stonewall" Jackson was killed the same way near Antietam.
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Yep, its a case of friendly fire.
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darth-sinister
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Lt. Lorth Needa. Yes, the same man Vader kills later for his failure with capturing the Millenium Falcon. What happened is that none of the Star Destroyers knew that Anakin and Obi-wan were aboard. Need stops firing and demands to speak with Grievous. He tells the General to show him proof that Palpatine's aboard, otherwise he will destroy them. Grievous goes to show him his quarters, but there's no Palpatine. Ten minutes pass before Needa opens fire again. Anakin's carrying Obi-wan and running with Palpatine at this point. They cannot contact ship to ship.
Taken from the novelization.
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yoshifett
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It's cool that it's Needa. Another one of those nods to the OT.
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darth-sinister
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You should see his cousin. He's even more inept.
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yoshifett
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darth-sinister posted:
You should see his cousin. He's even more inept.
I didn't realize that was possible! Although to Needa's credit, at least it's Han Solo who outsmarts him.
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Grievous: Surrender accepted Lt. Needa
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Darth_Ogawa
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I wish they would have shown some of a young Needa giving orders to the clones to fire and such during the space battle.
It would have helped to tie into the end better so we don't suddenly see Imperial Officers as if they suddenly were formed together just for Vader's debut. That's one of the criticizms I noticed from a lot of people as I viewed Revenge of the Sith for the 1st time.
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darth-sinister posted:
You should see his cousin. He's even more inept.
Forgive my lack on knowledge, but huh? Care to explain?
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darth-sinister
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Following the death of Lorth Needa, Vader was so angry that he ordered almost all the Needas to be killed for his failure. Yeah, overkill. Virar Needa survived and was able to stay in the Empire. Nearly three years after Endor, Virar was aboard one of the Orbital Solar Mirrors that surround Courscant. Rogue Squadron and members of General Cracken's intelligence team, managed to manipulate the mirrors to aid in the taking of Courscant. At first Virar thought it was just a standard Imperial emergency and that he would be well rewarded by Ysanne Isard for his small part in what was going on. He was unaware that the mirrors were shutting down the planet's defense sheilds. Then when the New Republic fleet showed up to take Courscant, he tried to order his men to fight. Unfortunately, he forgot that the station has no weapons of any kind. Nor would it be smart to try to fight the New Republic. Basically, he showed that he's not that bright and as we've seen with Lorth, stupidity does run in the family.
This is the one time that Vader was justified in killing people.
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Lt. Lorth Needa. Yes, the same man Vader kills later for his failure with capturing the Millenium Falcon. What happened is that none of the Star Destroyers knew that Anakin and Obi-wan were aboard. Need stops firing and demands to speak with Grievous. He tells the General to show him proof that Palpatine's aboard, otherwise he will destroy them. Grievous goes to show him his quarters, but there's no Palpatine. Ten minutes pass before Needa opens fire again. Anakin's carrying Obi-wan and running with Palpatine at this point. They cannot contact ship to ship.
Taken from the novelization.
That was needa??  I never noticed that, thats funny.
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Question.
If Needa was as inept as people here are making out, then isn't the fault surely with the Command structure of the empire for letting someone so inept into the position of such command?
And I don't think what he did was that huge a failure, more a good move by Han Solo that bypassed the imperial 'rulebook'... Dunno, Just don't think it was Needa's fault they lost the Falcon, more Han's skill than anything else.
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RolandofGilead
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Leave it to the EU to over-analyze and provide a detailed explanation for every single last line, scene, or event in the OT. 
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RolandofGilead posted:
Leave it to the EU to over-analyze and provide a detailed explanation for every single last line, scene, or event in the OT.
Either that, or certain ppl to whine endlessly when things aren't spoon-fed to them.
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darth-sinister
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Dj_Stevie_C posted:
Question.
If Needa was as inept as people here are making out, then isn't the fault surely with the Command structure of the empire for letting someone so inept into the position of such command?
And I don't think what he did was that huge a failure, more a good move by Han Solo that bypassed the imperial 'rulebook'... Dunno, Just don't think it was Needa's fault they lost the Falcon, more Han's skill than anything else.
Well, Needa just made a tiny error with the Invisible Hand. Perfectly understandable. But Vader was super ticked off that Needa lost the Falcon. Remember, Vader remembers that Needa was there on Courscant years ago. He's probably never forgotten about his little error and took it way too personally. That's why Thrawn was more respected when he was in charge of the Imperial Navy. He knew that there were some things out of anyone's control. And instead of killing someone for failure, he got them to admit their error and then made it clear that they could avoid it in the future.
Vader's a good leader, but got too much of a temper problem. Boba Fett wasn't stupid though. He figured out that the Falcon's hyperdrive was not working and realized that if Han didn't go to lightspeed, he'd rely on a technique similar to what Obi-wan Kenobi did at Geonosis.
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