Author Topic: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
BothofUs  4324 posts
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 2/20/05 2:59am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Anyone know what R2 does in the middle of the movie?

We know that 3PO will be with Padme and the Rebel Alliance people....Will R2 be with Anakin or with Padme?

 

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joelwatts 
Registered: Mar '05
Date Posted: 3/17/05 12:44pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Been catching up on old threads. Okay- R2 is programmed to say Obi Wan is his owner to help facilitate the quickest meeting with Obi. Owen is no help becuase he knows Obi Wan, and immediately orders Luke to wipe the memory. Princess Leia pragrammed R2 that way because she thought it would help when he was picked up, he would claim to belong to Obi Wan, Obi Wan would be summoned to the lost and found, and given his "droid." That would have been a lot easier than R2 searching the entire planet for Obi Wan.

Second point- 3PO and R2 are two of countless numbers of droids across the galaxy. OT heroes become close to them and thus remember their numbers as names. The only other character who was close enough emotionally to remember was Anakin, and he has little to no interaction with the droids in the OT.

For Owen to remember either of them 20 years later would be like us remembering the serial number of the toaster we had 20 years ago. Owen is like an old farmer. He knows he once had a tractor, and it was green, a John Deer, but heck if he can remember the model number. Besides, everybody he knows had a green John Deer, so what's the big deal?

 

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overmydeadbody  1171 posts
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Date Posted: 3/17/05 12:48pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
"For Owen to remember either of them 20 years later would be like us remembering the serial number of the toaster we had 20 years ago."

WRONG! Threepio was with the Lars family for something like 8 years. He WOULD remember him you would think. However, I think Lucas may have simply tried to skirt the issue by having Threepio's coverings different in AOTC. Of course, no-one in their right mind would forget Threepio's voice. We know protocol droids have different voices.

 

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r8hitman  4085 posts
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Date Posted: 3/18/05 11:01am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
What really has me curious is when the visual dictionary mentions Anakin doing some kind of modifications to R2. thinking

 

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Force-Keeper  5996 posts
Registered: Jun '04
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Date Posted: 3/18/05 11:10am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
I’m really hoping the modification’s that Anakin made were the ones that help Luke and the rest of the crew get out of those tight jams in the OT. Like the saw that he uses to cut Luke, Han, Chewie and the droids down from the net on Endor or the contraption that allows R2 to shoot Luke’s lightsaber out of his dome. I think that would be really cool.

 

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lenlenlen1  73 posts
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/18/05 11:34pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Forget the gold plating for C3PO and the jets for R2D2. I'll bet those issues wont even be discussed. As to their memories Its easy enough to erase computer memory banks. Maybe Obi Wan does it to them so that their memories wont be used by the villains somehow.

However its harder to explain why Uncle Owen doesnt seem to recognise that he already had a droid named C3PO or why Obi Wan himself doesnt even seem to recognise either of them in A NEW HOPE. Ya got me there. I'll bet that wont be addressed either though. My guess: Maybe... Senility?

Lots of contradictions. I mean, the whole idea that Anakin is actually C3PO's creator in the first place is kind of silly to begin with.

 

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lenlenlen1  73 posts
Registered: Mar '05
23994_Quinlan Vos
Date Posted: 3/18/05 11:47pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
I just read this on another post:

"For Owen to remember either of them 20 years later would be like us remembering the serial number of the toaster we had 20 years ago. Owen is like an old farmer. He knows he once had a tractor, and it was green, a John Deer, but heck if he can remember the model number. Besides, everybody he knows had a green John Deer, so what's the big deal?"

no offense but thats crazy! C3PO is more than a toaster or tractor. He talks, he walks, he conveys ideas and interacts with people. For all intents and purposes he IS a person. You honestly think because you havent seen someone in 20 years that you'd TOTALLY forget them? Someone that you interacted with for years? C3PO worked on his farm for at least a few years at the point that he's seen in AOTC. You'd forget that annoying (in a good way) personality that he has? AND his looks? AND his name? Everything? Not unless youre senile!

This is just another great Lucas contradiction, and I bet it wont even be dealt with in ROTS. Not that I'm gonna let that spoil the movie for me!

 

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kN3eLb4Z0d 
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 3/21/05 1:24pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
The only thing is, is C3P0 never mentions his "name" to Owen in ANH, at least, on camera. There's a cut to R2 at one point where he slowly rotates his head toward them, which I can now interpret in two ways: 1. He was hoping 3P0 would say something so he'd get chosen so he could continue on his "secret mission", and/or 2. He was wondering if Owen recognized either of them.

 

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Jedi_Night_Tempest 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/28/05 8:38am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
I'm new to this forum but may i make a suggestion (this may have been brought up before but i didnt see anyone mention this in this thred)

If 3P0 had his memory wiped how would he remember that he was in the clone wars as mentioned when luke first brings him out of cleaning tank (or wateva)

"You were in the clone wars tell me about it"

"I could but im no good at story teling"

somthin to that extent im not going to quote it word for word

(it is also funny that he dosnt tell that story but when it comes to telling the Ewoks a story he starts from when he meets luke)

so this helps the argument and dosnt lol

but still this movie was made 20 years ago who knew what was going to happen its still an extremly good movie even if 3P0 gets a wipe or not

GL didnt know that he would make the PT when he made ANH he didnt even know if he was going to make TESB up until a couple of months before the story of ANH was frist turned to script it was "LUKE STARKILLER" i doubted that he was thinkin hmmm in 20 years time will people be bikering about 3P0's memory when there about to see the ultimate fight between OBI-WAN and DARTH VADER

Thanks kN3eLb4Z0d he dosnt mention his name but also did you notice that the name of the planet isnt revealed to until episode VI when they land to go to Jabba's palace even then they dont mention that there back on the planet they were only on a couple of days ago

 

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HDX 
Registered: Sep '03
Date Posted: 3/28/05 10:21am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
"You were in the clone wars tell me about it"

"I could but im no good at story teling"

somthin to that extent im not going to quote it word for word


You are misquoting the dialog

It is really


LUKE: Have you been in many battles?

THREEPIO: Several, I think. Actually, there's not much to tell. I'm
not much more than an interpreter, and not very good at telling
stories. Well, not at making them interesting, anyways.


C3PO never says he was in the clone wars.

 

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Darth_Fee  63 posts
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 4/5/05 11:18am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Does R2D2 know who Darth Varder is? In the Episode 3 Visual dictionary it says that R2D2 and Anakin are very fond of each other, and Obi-wan is amazed in how much R2D2 likes Anakin. So does he know that Darth Vader is anakin? wonder how he fells about it sad

 

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JediPrettyBoy  2014 posts
Registered: Jan '05
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Date Posted: 5/1/05 7:10pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Vader notices R2 helping out the rebellion in the trench battle in ANH which is why he blows his head off.

 

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Boba Jr  1054 posts
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Date Posted: 5/21/05 11:19pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Vader notices R2 helping out the rebellion in the trench battle in ANH which is why he blows his head off.

IMO, Vader couldn't tell he was shooting at this son and his own former astromech.

 

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DarthSapient  71946 posts
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Date Posted: 5/31/05 10:43am Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
Up for redundant page one thread.

 

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CliffnMichelle 
Registered: Jun '05
13787_Anakin
Date Posted: 6/7/05 6:26pm Subject: RE: *OFFICIAL THREAD* Roles of R2-D2 and C3-PO
How many times does R2 have to save Obi Wan's ass before the old fart remembers him LOL,

In ANH - "I dont recall ever owning any droids" Whats that about!!!

Show a little gratitide Obi Wan!!

 

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