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Jango10 
Registered: Sep '02
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Date Posted: 3/31 1:34pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
I'd like to either play a Turian or a Krogan.

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 3/31 4:39pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
Sadly, the opening post is going to be enormous... worried I hope you guys can forgive me. I am going to have to end up splitting it into like a bazillion posts, to keep the information flow bearable.

 

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witchdoctor187 
Registered: Aug '07
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Date Posted: 3/31 7:52pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
fine with me, Mass effect is a little hard to sum up into one little post

 

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Reynar_Tedros 
Registered: Jul '06
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Date Posted: 4/3 10:10pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
So I think I'm going to make an RPG about this.

Yeah, I think I'll do that.

 

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Date Posted: 4/3 10:45pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
As I expressed in the GDG, I will be more than happy to help create a Mass Effect game. happy That is, if you need any help.

I am most definitely looking forward to this game be created though. I love the Mass Effect universe.

How about we just make the Mass Effect universe the Flagship RPG? grin

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SephyCloneNo15 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/3 10:52pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
My vote is still something original for the Flagship.

 

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CmdrMitthrawnuruodo 
Registered: Jul '00
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Date Posted: 4/15 6:59pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
What would you guys think of a Star Wars/Star Trek crossover?


I had an idea earlier today that would set Star Wars around the New Jedi Order time and Star Trek would be set after Star Trek: Nemesis. Anyway... it would be an Alternate Universe for Star Wars mainly because the Yuuzhan Vong would not be the invaders.

No no this isnt going to be a classic Star Trek vs Star Wars game. In fact it's going to be a collaboration between the the two governments to work against a common enemy...



The Borg!

I've always considered the Yuuzhan Vong as the SW version of the Borg. Unstoppable, adaptable and a huge arse threat to civilization. So rather than introduce the Vong (which many of us hate) I've decided that the Borg (which everybody loves) should invade the GFFA. It would be logical for the Borg to do that. The Borg are always looking for new technology and cultures to add to their own. They have tried trans-dimensional and time-travel invasions before so why not a time-travel, trans-galactic invasion?

Why the Borg though?

The Borg are the biggest threat in the Star Trek universe and they would be an even larger threat in the Star Wars universe because of a lot of the new technology that SW was able to create. For example: Centerpoint Station, a machine capable of creating massive gravitic anomalies and moving whole star systems, would be a very appetizing piece of technology the Borg would want. Anyway... because the Borg assimilate and adapt new technology and cultures, the United Federation of Planets would definitely want to prevent the Borg from succeeding in bringing this technology back with them to the Milky Way... so now we have the USS Enterprise and the USS Voyager (two crews greatly experienced in dealing with the Borg) would be sent to stop the Borg and seek the help of the New Republic/Galactic Alliance who already engaged in a war with them and not doing so well because of the Borg's ability to adapt.

Even the Jedi are having difficulty getting past the Borg's personal shields. The transporter technology allows the Borg to appear anywhere in numbers quickly and if a Jedi were to be assimilated... Jedi Borg? Eek!


So what do you think?

 

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Saintheart 
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Registered: Dec '00
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Date Posted: 4/15 8:31pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0 - Date Edited: 4/15 8:37pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Saintheart
Very interesting concept. From an RPF point of view as regards the whole "No crossovers in the SWRPF without authorisation", I'm happy to get behind this one.

It's been many moons since we've seen an RPG from you, Mitth. This, I think, will be a night long remembered...

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EDIT: Although I'd be happier with only throwing the Borg in against the GFFA without further reference to the Federation at all. That way you can sidestep the awkward problems of necessitating time and major space travel (the whole long time ago in a galaxy far, far away thing...) and the bigger questions of whether humanity in the GFFA speaks English, how humans managed to wind up in two galaxies at the same time, etc, etc...

It also avoids the "Enterprise D is more powerful than ISD" issue as well. You can make the Borg's arrival as mysterious as you like; nobody knows where they originate from or how they manage to get around space so damn fast. That's the beauty of them. happy

 

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CmdrMitthrawnuruodo 
Registered: Jul '00
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Date Posted: 4/16 9:56am Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
It's been many moons since we've seen an RPG from you, Mitth. This, I think, will be a night long remembered...

Eh... Im kinda out of the GMing business. Id rather throw the ideas out there and let someone else pick it up and run it rather than run it myself. But who knows...

That way you can sidestep the awkward problems of necessitating time and major space travel (the whole long time ago in a galaxy far, far away thing...)

Problem solved, vortexes. They've been used in ST before to send a vessel across space and time. Star Trek: Voyager episode Furture's End is an example of such a vortex.

and the bigger questions of whether humanity in the GFFA speaks English,

Two words: Universal Translator

how humans managed to wind up in two galaxies at the same time, etc, etc...

Well the GFFA doesnt know where humans came from, they just speculate that Coruscant is the homeworld based on oral/written history and a few mummies. In Star Trek it is not uncommon to find humans in regions of the Milky Way when there shouldn't be any. Star Trek: Voyager has at least three worlds in the Delta Quadrant populated by humans pre-dating as far back as the 1930s. Star Trek: Enterprise has at least one human world pre-federation dating back to the 1800s. The Volth (evolved dinos) are also a race that originate from Earth that now live in the Delta Quadrant. They left because of a natural disaster threat to their very existance. We have the legend of Atlantis, a very advanced but very lost civilization. So who says we cant have humans leaving earth thousands of years ago for the same reason as the Volth and rather than settle in the Delta Quadrant (which they could find very hostile) they chose instead to leave the galaxy and colonize the GFFA human homeworld pre-Infinity Empire. The Infinity Empire came into existance because of this colony, claimed they invented the hyperdrive and expanded their territory into what we now know as the Infinity Empire.

It also avoids the "Enterprise D is more powerful than ISD" issue as well.

Eh? Those Trekkers are desperate to think that the Enterprise D is more powerful than the ISD. Sure its more maneuverable but you can have all the maneuvability in the universe and still not be able to defeat a starship with more firepower and better shielding unless you get really lucky and hit its weakness (which all things have anyway, even the Enterprise). The battles with the Borg is a prime example of this. The entire Federation could not defeat a single cube with its fleet of starships unless they had former drones serving as captains to hear the collectives damage reports.

 

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SephyCloneNo15 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/16 11:05am Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
Oooooooh. I like. Borg vs. GFFA....why did it take this long for anyone to get this far in making a game based on it?

Simple solution to the Federation getting the GFFA: In the campaign for Star Trek Armada II, the Federation had to capture a Borg Transwarp gate to chase the Borg into the Delta Quadrant...or was it Fluidic Space? I forget. The point is, the Borg have stationary Transwarp Gates that could be captured so the Federation can get to the GFFA, or perhaps even a GFFA ship can get to our Galaxy and plead their case to the Federation...

I think I'm gonna have to offer to take a Co-GM spot and dig myself nice and deep into the development of the plot...

 

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CmdrMitthrawnuruodo 
Registered: Jul '00
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Date Posted: 4/16 12:49pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0 - Date Edited: 4/16 12:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: CmdrMitthrawnuruodo
Transwarp gate is fine in getting to a location, however the gate does not have time-travel capabilities. The GFFA is in the past. 24th Century GFFA would probably be a little too powerful for the Borg to take on so they would go into the past when the GFFA is inferior, yet superior (in some technologies) to everyone in the Milky Way.

Anyway the word/phrase I was looking for in last post isn't "vortex" but "temporal anomaly". A temporal gate would need to be constructed. Temporal anomalies can send an object into the past and to a different location from where the object originally entered the anomaly. The Borg are big experts on temporal anomalies so I don't see it beyond their capability to build a temporal gate or just the anomaly itself.

The Unimatrix Zero, the main transwarp gate terminal bus for the Borg, was destroyed by USS Voyager in the series finale "End Game". I've read a book set after Star Trek: Nemesis that states that the Borg have changed their MO due to losing Unimatrix Zero and at having the hive mind infected by a virus thanks to "future" Admiral Kathryn Janeway. They no longer just assimilate, they now annihilate threats in order to survive. When the Borg learn about some of the technologies in the GFFA via say... a probe of some sort sent to the Milky Way to check out the galaxy, the Borg decide they will go to another galaxy that has never heard of or seen their kind before and thus don't know how to adapt as easily, and assimilate this culture's technology and distinctiveness. Unfortunately the Borg find the modern GFFA is a little too powerful for them to attempt an assimilation so they decide to go into the past and assimilate the weaker GFFA.

The Federation learns of this plan from a couple drones who were de-assimilated after an engagement with the Borg. The Federation decides to send a few ships after these Borg Cubes that went to the GFFA galaxy to stop them from assimilating this new culture and its technology. The Starfleet ships make contact with the New Republic during an engagement between a single Borg Cube and the New Republic which the Federation helps them defeat. As the Federation and New Republic collaborate to defeat the rest of the Borg in the GFFA, elsewhere the Borg are busy assimilating words along the Hydian Way. In doing so they grow more powerful to the point that even the Federation is becoming hard pressed in defeating the "new" Borg.


Hmm... you know if we make it a temporal gate rather than just generating the anomaly itself, the Borg will be forced to rely on this gate. The gate would give the extra boost they need to travel the distances between galaxies and time whereas the anomaly is only powerful enough to send them elsewhere in their own galaxy. This would allow the Federation to trap the "new" Borg in the GFFA by destroying it and thus protect the Milky Way from this threat. Unfortunately they would also trap themselves unless they can reconstruct a temporal gate after the Borg are defeated.

 

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Winged_Jedi 
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 4/25 2:12pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
An idea I had a long time ago but I'm posting it again in a slightly new form to see what people think.




Millions of Voices

10,000 ABY

The final galactic war is over. A century previously, the Sith Empire completed construction of a fleet of superweapons, reminiscent of the legendary Death Star. The rest was inevitable. Once their enemies were finished, the Sith turned on each other, destroying worlds in their bloody struggle for power.

Eventually only one of the feared superweapons remained, controlled by the last surviving Sith Lord, who proclaimed himself ruler of the galaxy. His reign was short. A ragtag team of rebels banded together and destroyed the battlestation, killing the would-be Emperor.

But there is almost nothing left now. Entire sectors of the galaxy simply no longer exist. Coruscant, Corellia, Ryloth, Onderon, Bespin, Nar Shaddaa, Kashyyyk, Ithor...these are just a few of the worlds that have gone the way of Alderaan.

The fragile Restoration Alliance seeks to unify those worlds that remain, but they have some task ahead of them. Pirates swarm and scavenge over much of their territory. The state of more than 80% of the galaxy is unknown. Firstly, they need to discover exactly who has survived. Then comes the re-establishment of trade routes...the re-settlement of billions of refugees...the re-building of countless societies. Perhaps, one day, the return to a single galactic government.

Others are less optimistic, pointing to the Alliance's hugely overstretched resources. They call for an end to space travel altogether, claiming that the remaining worlds have no choice but to survive in isolation. The wounds inflicted by the last war may be too deep to heal.

The Sith are dead. The Jedi are dead. The Republic is dead.

Welcome to the end of the galaxy.

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
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Date Posted: 4/25 9:48pm Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
That sounds beautiful. cry

 

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Yuul_Shamar 
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Date Posted: 4/26 3:10am Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
To the Star Trek/GFFA game idea i say interesting and ask that thee remember the hyperdrive pwns da warp drive.

Nerdy speek aside and moving on to winged jedi's game I say awesomeness! Care to give us anything else on the subject?

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
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Date Posted: 4/26 8:08am Subject: RE: RPG Discussion Thread v2.0
When will it happen?

 

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