Author Topic: The Character Designers Guild
JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
Registered: May '05
45271_Assaj Ventress
Date Posted: 4/15 3:35pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
Mitth_Fisto posted:
JEDI_TEEGIRLOO posted:
You know if you played your character like Admiral Daala then you couldn't tell the difference if it was female or male. tongue


Who told shock How'd you know I was Admiral Daala! She still is a bit hard for me to remember all the man quirks, I'm just glad I haven't run into Tarkin yet cause that would really push the limits tongue

It would be interesting to see. tongue

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 4/15 3:36pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild - Date Edited: 4/15 3:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: NickLitYouAFlame
Are you sure it wasn't just his icon that gave it away?

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
Registered: May '05
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Date Posted: 4/15 3:40pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
No i wasnt looking at his icon. not_talking

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 4/15 5:50pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
Adamant in that regard?

 

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arononmarr01 
Registered: Apr '08
Date Posted: 4/16 2:49pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild - Date Edited: 4/16 3:51pm (1 edits total) Edited By: arononmarr01
can someone give me the ampount of time between thwe current events in the starwars books from the destruction of the shadow academy to the current aliance with Fond? and is there any physical difference between male and female kushiban, cause niehter wookiepedia, nor the ultimate alien anthology say.

 

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arononmarr01 
Registered: Apr '08
Date Posted: 4/21 10:23pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
hmm, well, since no one took a shot on the last question, how does everyone feel about Jensaarai characters? I culdn't find the issue of dungeon where they had the article about them, so im looking for any input.

 

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LightWarden 
Registered: Oct '01
19249_20-Sided Die
Date Posted: 4/21 10:56pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
arononmarr01 posted:
can someone give me the ampount of time between thwe current events in the starwars books from the destruction of the shadow academy to the current aliance with Fond? and is there any physical difference between male and female kushiban, cause niehter wookiepedia, nor the ultimate alien anthology say.


Well, you're going to have to explain who or what Fond is, but if you're talking about the Shadow Academy from the Young Jedi Knights series, that was 23 ABY. If you're talking about some sort of Fanon Shadow Academy of DARK DEEDS FOR DARK <3'S, then you're on your own.

As the Kushiban are fairly rodent-y, my guess is there isn't a huge amount of sexual dimorphism, aside from slight issues in size, maybe a bit of bone structure (hips and such), and slightly pronounced mammaries when the female is pregnant, the usual hormone differences, plus maybe some sort of nonsense with mating habits that I have no desire whatsoever to think about. In short: it doesn't matter.

As to the Jensaarai, they're just another "lol, balance" faction as far as I care. The large amount of conflicting views of the whole "Light Side, Dark Side" thing means it's pretty much up in the air. However, I've noticed a strong correlation between "characters who use questionable abilities while proclaiming that they're good and a necessary evil" and "characters who are kinda scummy", so I'm suspicious of characters who believe that getting their inner tazer on is an awesome thing, when you could just use the huge variety of alternative abilities to do something that doesn't involve use the Force to slap itself.

 

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LightWarden 
Registered: Oct '01
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Date Posted: 5/19 8:43pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
Wow, almost a month since I've posted in this thing. But at least I can rest easy knowing that I still have a few more weeks before I'm considered negligent.

Anyways, I'm kind of wondering why every time I ask for some examples of things that don't suck, I get one response. Look upon ye works and despair, I suppose.

I think it's time to once again flog the horse, as I'm still annoyed by the near-absence of weaknesses in characters I see. I mean, they always seem to know exactly how much the player knows. I mean, they're familiar with unpopulated nightmare zones such as Hoth, and the creatures that dwell there, despite the fact that it was chosen as a location specifically because it was a nigh-unknown world with the Rebellion "wow, no one in their right mind would ever come here, let's build a base out of this old pirate hole!" Similarly, everyone seems to know that the Jedi are the good guys, Palpatine is a Sith Lord who manipulated events to place himself in power, and the Sith are totally back in black, having never died out a thousand years ago and having maintained a line of true succession throughout the generations in a "Rule of Two". Despite the fact that the Sith have a history of throwing artifacts to the wind and causing havoc for those who find them, or the fact that they occasionally string along pawns with unkept promises of power and knowledge, this Rule of Two somehow allows for dozens of Sith Lords in each generation claiming to have a direct line of knowledge from Bane himself.

While I'm on the subject, again, the coat-tail-riding of major characters is pretty annoying. You get characters who are somehow descended from or taught by important characters in some sort of weird attempt at gaining status that strikes me more as one of those silly birthright things. "Disregard my complete lack of skills, talent, and merit, and know that my self-worth has been completely defined by the sheer virtue that I was lucky enough to have been in the same room as someone who actually mattered." Gotta love entitlement. Your character can't stand on his own two feet, so you make him stand on someone else's.

And while I'm on a roll with the knowledge thing, let's jump into the language thing. I still don't see why people seem to have this love for taking Earth things and then substituting a Star Wars word into it to make it Star Wars.

"Hey guys, have you watched that new series on the Holonet, the one that's set at the medcenter? It's about a diagnostician, his name is 'Residential Unit', and that's the title of the show!"

It really does sound this stupid from my end. Seriously, consider the implications of what you're saying before you search for cheap homonyms and synonyms. For instance, take the phrase "son of a Bith", which is apparently used as a curse word. We all know that authors use it because it sounds like an English invective that we apparently can't use on this board. But think about it. The English invective is an invective because it states that the subject shares parentage with a female dog, and it's considered insulting and likening the subject's parents to lowly unpleasant things. Thus if you use the phrase "son of a Bith", you're pretty much insinuating that the Bith are a lowly species and it's a terrible thing to be descended from one. So you're either an idiot who doesn't pay attention to what he's saying, or a bigot who really thinks that Bith are the scum of the galaxy (they're not part of the glorious master rac- err.. human species) , or both. This ties back to the whole knowledge thing as well. If you make an English analogy that involves snow, and then substitute in Hoth for whatever reason... why would your character do that? Hoth isn't exactly a well-known planet. Maybe your character travels to frozen lumps for fun and profit and maybe your character might actually be familiar with that particular hunk of junk, but odds are the galaxy at large will be confused about it until sometime post-Rebellion (when it becomes something of interest thanks to its role in the struggle). So maybe they'll get the general gist of it (apparently, Hoth is a place that's cold), but don't expect them to fully understand it.

Obi-Wan: "Even a duck must learn how to swim."
Luke: "What's a duck?"
(Apparently, it's a creature from Naboo).

Then there's my usual complaints about few characters around here seem to do anything other than fight enemy/advance plot. Don't you guys have any ambitions, desires, hobbies or just stupid fun things you enjoy doing? Are you people this bad in meatspace as well?

 

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Winged_Jedi 
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 5/20 1:29am Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
LightWarden posted:


And while I'm on a roll with the knowledge thing, let's jump into the language thing. I still don't see why people seem to have this love for taking Earth things and then substituting a Star Wars word into it to make it Star Wars.



To be fair, the EU does this sort of thing so much you can hardly blame EU readers for doing the same.

 

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SephyCloneNo15 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 5/20 6:32am Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
LightWarden posted:
Then there's my usual complaints about few characters around here seem to do anything other than fight enemy/advance plot. Don't you guys have any ambitions, desires, hobbies or just stupid fun things you enjoy doing? Are you people this bad in meatspace as well?


I actually do exist solely for advancing RL plots. It's true. You've found me out.

 

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LightWarden 
Registered: Oct '01
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Date Posted: 5/20 12:01pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
Winged: The EU authors usually stick to converting English idioms, whereas I've seen some EU fans convert registered trademarks, which is a whole new level of screwy and lack of creativity.

Sephy: What I'm referring to is the fact that people don't seem to do anything other than fight enemy, make revelations, advance plotline, and rarely seem to do any sort of leisure activity that might mark them as anything other than highly sophisticated machines. This is of course referring to the RPs I've seen, where the closest thing to bonding seems to be hitting each other in the face during sparring practice. And no one seems to offer me any counter-examples of people relaxing, clowning around, not having serious discussions, eating group meals, playing games, practicing hobbies that aren't the path to ultimate power, etc. Sure, the "Push it to the limit!" style of always doing something could work as a gimmick for a character or two, but it's getting tiresome to not see anything that I can identify as humanizing.

 

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Zandoran_Celix 
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 5/22 12:42am Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
I enjoy making my character be involved in leisure activity. He likes cigars and regularly shows it, he likes gambling and drinking too.

Its not all about plotline momentum and major event revelations.

If you can't place emotion and real human struggle in a post than you aren't a deep roleplayer.

like I told a friend. Agonize over real human struggles. The fact you just took a human life in game if its your characters first time. Or that you screwed up on a mission and now someones hurt or the criminal or bad guy did a worse thing than before.

 

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LightWarden 
Registered: Oct '01
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Date Posted: 5/22 8:37am Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
Wait, I ask for humanizing characteristics and you give me angst?

Sadly enough, this explains so many things.

 

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NickLitYouAFlame 
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Date Posted: 5/22 5:36pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild - Date Edited: 5/22 5:40pm (1 edits total) Edited By: NickLitYouAFlame
LW, you make me want to create a cyborg character that is only interested in advancing and growing and never does anything leisurely and makes a bunch of revelations. One who is mega hawt and really good a killing and has no morals and yet, is the most compassionate individual ever. One who has a lightsaber and a Sith Tremor Sword and poison darts and hidden blades and heavy repeating blasters and effectively kills most things with single attacks. A guy who can move planets with the Force and has three personal Death Stars and a Clone Palpatine for a bodyguard. Perhaps, a character with a Manchu and cortosis armor. Who owns a pet Diathim and is a Chiss/Togorian/Star Dragon/Elomin/Human hybrid. One who was trained by Yoda and Sidious and Darth Vader and Darth Revan, through the holocron that he repaired, and Mace Windu and Quinlan Vos. Who stole the Errant Venture from Booster Terrik and is the secret son of Obi-Wan Kenobi and Fay.

 

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Ace_Aso 
Registered: May '08
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Date Posted: 5/22 5:59pm Subject: RE: The Character Designers Guild
LightWarden posted:
Winged: The EU authors usually stick to converting English idioms, whereas I've seen some EU fans convert registered trademarks, which is a whole new level of screwy and lack of creativity.

Sephy: What I'm referring to is the fact that people don't seem to do anything other than fight enemy, make revelations, advance plotline, and rarely seem to do any sort of leisure activity that might mark them as anything other than highly sophisticated machines. This is of course referring to the RPs I've seen, where the closest thing to bonding seems to be hitting each other in the face during sparring practice. And no one seems to offer me any counter-examples of people relaxing, clowning around, not having serious discussions, eating group meals, playing games, practicing hobbies that aren't the path to ultimate power, etc. Sure, the "Push it to the limit!" style of always doing something could work as a gimmick for a character or two, but it's getting tiresome to not see anything that I can identify as humanizing.


I know I'm a total and complete noob here, but I'm not new to online role playing.

The reason I, and I believe others, don't have their characters doing leisure activities is because when we do them no one pays attention to you unless your extremely popular, and even then they normally just press on without you anyway.

The goal of Role Playing is playing a role to which others interact, and if no one replies to your post you then you don't enjoy the RPG.

 

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