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Imperial_Hammer
Title: Manager:
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Sep '04
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Date Posted:
5/27 11:07am
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RE: The RPF Rules Discussion
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Imperial_Hammer
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Last call for opinions on the franchise rule topic...
Next time I post here, it will be moving it on to discussions about socks and how many we should allow here per user within games.
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Imperial_Hammer
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Date Posted:
6/2 10:13pm
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RE: The RPF Rules Discussion
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Okiedokie... Sock Time...
This subject is more nitpicky than anything else really. Proooobably shouldn't even be up to discussion, buuuut, why not. Might as well hear what you have to say.
So the rules say,
The Rules of the RPF posted:
7) Players are allowed to register socks to role-play with but in keeping with the JC's Sock Policy, only 3 socks are allowed per user. All information about a character which is relevant to gameplay should be openly included in it's profile for all users to see. If a sock/character is killed during the course of a game it may be reported to the mod/admin for banning (unless the owner intends to resurrect the character in some clever and plausible way).
This just seems kinda old and in need of revision.
So there are two ways of interpreting this, either placing stress on the 1st or 2nd sentence. If its the first, its three socks, no matter what. This I have a problem with, and would like to see it changed to 1. There have been users, even in the three months I've been here, where one name makes a game, and three of that name's socks join the game disguised as normal users. To me, this is sneaky and deceptive towards others, who might be joining because there seems to be alot of folks interested.
However, if we put a stress on the second sentence, this means that the only socks usable in the RPF are game socks, and thats it. While I'd be fine with this, I know there are plenty of folks who have a pseudonym they like to use to get away from it all. So this might be a bit too strict.
Once more, I put this out to the posters. How many socks should RPFers be able to use? Should they be only game socks?
Lets hear what you alls have to say. 
-I_H
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darth_nemisis
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Date Posted:
6/3 9:12am
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Hm...the sock rule. I don't really see it as much of a problem, especially since it's not too noticeable to the userbase. Though, I do agree with what you said about that example you gave, that is a bit deceitful. So, what can we do about that? I don't really think there is that much that can be done.
I would say 1 sock per user can limit that. But is that too strict? Judging by this poll, I would say that people like creating socks.  Something that you could do is have a sort of "Official Sock Registry" thread of sorts where members come in and give a link to the sock they will be using in the games. That way, you can keep track of socks easier and what not, especially if you have to limit them. Though, I do admit, it may not work out that good.
One thing that will have to be allowed though, is the use of game-ban socks, I would think. Say a user uses a sock for an RPG, yet their main accounts gets a game ban and they post with a different sock. I would think that would be no problem.
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Saintheart
Title: Manager and Wandering Swordsman of the RPF
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Date Posted:
6/3 6:51pm
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RE: The RPF Rules Discussion
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[obi-Wan]From my point of view[/obi-wan] I believe socks are really not that useful in the RPF anyway.
One of the principal reasons I hold that view is because of a phenomenon I've noticed in the forums in my short time here: socks are sometimes used to circumvent the "one RPG per forum" rule. For example, IizL33tJedi is running a Legacy RPG, his sock BadButtSithLordMKay is running a KOTOR RPG, and IizL33tJedi is also running a Yu-Gi-Oh RPG.
That gets my back up because the rule is there (in whatever form we finally decide for it) for very good reasons - to stop spam, and to get home to people that they shouldn't be taking on too many RPGs at a time. Now, I appreciate that we're here to enforce the rules, but I've seen people with a large number of socks and I really don't relish the idea of repelling smurf rushes from the RPF on a daily basis; I've got other duties to attend to.
Game ban socks are less of a problem because the rationale of the ban is usually clearly stated in the sock.
But from my point of view, 1 sock on the RPF is really enough. More than that and my experience is that you either have multiple personality syndrome or you're looking to hype your game or circumvent RPG rules.  It's not as though we have a rule of "one user account per character per RPG" in here, after all.
On the "Official Sock Registry" thing - not a bad idea, but this isn't really required from my point of view mostly because the problem isn't quite that endemic, and as Colonel Klink would say on behalf of moderators, "We haff vays of finding your socks."
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DarthXan318
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Date Posted:
6/3 7:11pm
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I don't like the idea of an Official Sock Registry. The entire point of using a sock is so nobody knows who you really are in a game (save the mods, naturally) - having to go to a thread and say "Hai guys this is my sock!" would defeat the purpose of having one in the first place.
If people use socks to circumvent the RP authorship rules, then have the rule say "One RPG per forum per person" rather than username instead and ban them. Or I dunno, this might be what you're doing already.
Do the official JC rules still state max 3 socks per person? I was sure they used to but I can't find that stated anywhere now.
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Reynar_Tedros
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Date Posted:
6/3 7:43pm
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If they do, I think I'm kinda screwed.
The only big deal I see in terms of socks is using them to make more than one RPG in a forum. Other than that, what's the harm? I don't think it hurts the RPF, so I don't see why something special needs to be done to prevent it.
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Imperial_Hammer
Title: Manager:
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Date Posted:
6/10 2:09am
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Last call for comments on the sock thing.
Moving on the Mod Involvement in the RPF Awards come tomorrow or Wednesday ish...
-I_H
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Imperial_Hammer
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Date Posted:
6/14 12:11am
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RE: The RPF Rules Discussion
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Alright, lets do it then....
Mods and the RPF Awards
So no rule on the book here, but thats what this is about. Should there be some sort of rule about Moderators and their eligibility with the Awards? For the Spring Awards, I just sorta tagged us on to the two highest non-Mods as a party of notice, but not getting a spot for colors or what have you. Should we do that? Or maybe just ban the mods all together? Or give us all the rights of any other normal player? Now that we have two active Mods that are GMs, it's probably good to have something for this on the books for later.
Any opinions on where the Mods fall in the whole awards scheme? Was what what I for the Spring Awards kosher w/ you all?
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darth_nemisis
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Date Posted:
6/14 12:15am
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I think that, if you guys actively participate in the games within these forums (which is what you guys do), and people vote for you, then you should be allowed to win. That just wouldn't be fair. However, I think the colors should go to the second place person/people. And I think this should go for all mods, not just you guys. I know that some other mods (sey, HanSolo, Pulsar) post around these parts occasionally, so they shouldn't be exempt from this rule either.
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Reynar_Tedros
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Date Posted:
6/14 8:00am
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Oh, so now being a mod just isn't enough. They gotta have their cake and eat it, too. Well, Imperial_Slammer, that is our cake, and I do not intend to let you get your filthy gavel on it!
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darth_nemisis
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Date Posted:
6/14 10:18am
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 I can see where you're coming from Reynar, but I just don't see it as being fair to them. I mean, look at this:
RPF Rules Thread posted:
3) Moderators are cautioned that if they wish to partake in an RPG, they do so as a normal user and are not to overstep their jurisdiction, nor use their powers and/or privelege to cheat, modify the RPG or unfairly disclose the identity of anonymous users under alias/socks etc.
When mods join a game, they do so as "normal users", not moderators. And the Awards are to acknowledge exceptional playing by players of these games: ie. normal users. They are players, and they should have a shot as well. When it comes to actually RPing in a game, they are only mods in the sense that they: 1.) Are in the header, 2.) Have longer edit time, 3.) Have colors.
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Reynar_Tedros
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6/14 2:58pm
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Okay, let's look at it this way.
Say the president of the Academy Awards decides to go into acting. And, hear me out, he gives an Oscar worthy performance and gets nominated. Should he win?
No, he's the president of the ******* Academy.
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DarthXan318
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6/14 6:24pm
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I like what you did in the last awards. It seems the fairest, especially (as Nem said) when you consider non-RPF mods who RP.
That the person counting the votes shouldn't also win is perhaps a valid point, so maybe have an awards sock instead of using your main account?
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Reynar_Tedros
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6/14 6:38pm
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Or, you could have someone like me run the awards.
I mean, I don't RP, and I'm not a mod.
And I am the most trustworthy user here.
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DarthSeti5
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Date Posted:
6/15 8:23am
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*Back from a long sleep*
I would say that Mods should certainly be allowed to participate and be victorious in the awards; ought we to punish excellence and reward second-runnership? Moderators (especially for these forums) are almost always some of the best players and GMs, it is no coincidence that they have been asked to help us patrol ourselves.
Perhaps a winning moderator should turn their colors OFF to show the content of their spoils.
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