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LordTroepfchen Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 9/1 2:54am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	I actually agree it has gotten a lot better . . . I mean there are no rivalries or anything, anyway . . . until the awards come along. But I´d say you should probably "encourage" the good mood among GMs right now, by not putting this in the post, Fin. Otherwise fine, fine . . . -----signature----- Member of the "German-Triumvirate", GDG, CDG
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DarkLordoftheFins Title: RPG & Minis Forum D6 Game Master Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 9/1 3:01am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Well, I had my doubts about that sentence, so if you got some too . . . consider it gone. Anything missing? -----signature----- Member of the "Triumvirate" - GM of 133 ABY I have seen younger man called old - LordT Some men just wanna watch the world burn . . .
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SirakRomar Registered: Mar '07	Date Posted: 9/1 8:10am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Can´t say a lot about the GMG, except that I probably wonßt join it any time soon, or be a GM for that matter but I´ll read along to see what my great story-tellings GMs have on their mind Penguinator-176 posted: Cliques aren't a problem, solidarity amongst them is. Sometimes I'm frustrated by a trend that I see developing in the cliques: voting in the Awards. Yeah, okay, probably you'll vote for those you play with/are pals with. But sometimes it's all a bit much that the same people are constantly nominated and the same groups dominate the wins. Doesn´t that mean the people do never win? You can´t nominate anybody for a year if he wins. Also even if you may not agree, it might be that some people are well liked and have fans around here . . . From my experience the largest games win as well as their most active/visible players. Which is a matter of logic. I can´t vote for someone I haven´t read. I think the last four Best-Game wins happened in the order of player numbers. If groups are dominating these wins might be a result of group-work. Well, I finally decided to speak my mind about cliques. Cliques. We have a problem here that I think is addressed under the "idea of cliques", but I must say most of those groups one can consider a clique -most of the time people playing or have played certain games together for a long time- are pretty peaceful and open to others. I assume the problem are people having problems with other people. I have been victim of unexplained aggression a few times. Harassment. Insults. Ignoring my posts. Asking me to leave a game. All that happened. I am not aware to have done anything to anyone. I have also realized certain people´s behavior. What I have not yet perceived is that they belong to one group. They are united by not liking me, at best. -----signature----- Sorry about my english. I try . . . I really do! Member of "ImperialesZentrum" from the first day to the last! And proud of it! Yoda is sexy!
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greyjedi125 Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 9/1 10:19am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	GMG!! Woot!! Wasn't aware of any rivalries. That's news to me. *proceeds to happily join! Game on!w00t!! -----signature----- "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."_Yoda "I find your lack of Faith disturbing."_ Darth Vader "There is always Hope."_Luke Skywalker "Make me one with everything." (Hungry Monk)_Ameteth
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Penguinator-176 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 9/1 1:51pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Every time discussions of player groups come around, I rope myself into it all be trying to say something incredibly insightful, only to be shown that it isn't that simple...I wind up with my foot firmly in my mouth, which is honestly the best place for it sometimes, as it prevents me from talking even more. I'd also like to apologize for all the nonsense that I spew about groups; most of the time I speak without thinking, which is no excuse. -----signature----- United States of Eurasia - RECOGNIZED Hoffa GDG
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Sith-I-5 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/1 2:41pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Lovely to see some stars next to our names! -----signature----- Crowning Moment of Awesome – THE MASTER. Summoning six billion robotic beach balls Of Doom to decimate the Earth, blowing a good-bye kiss to the Doctor, all the while dancing to "Voodoo Child". EPIC. EVIL. WIN. 007 Family - DVC's twin bro'.
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Winged_Jedi Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 9/1 3:06pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up - Date Edited: 9/1 3:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Winged_Jedi
	As for 'cliques' (a somewhat charged term, I think), I would say that this is always going to happen to some extent. When we see users who have friendships and a shared RPing history, that is naturally intimidating in some way. For example, the WOTG players once dominated not just their threads, but slso (it seemed to me) the social scene of the RPF. They also came up with all the new ideas for RPing and for the forum. Later it was the IBOP players who took up that same role. Later still it might have been (on a smaller scale) the Podracer crowd, or the 007 crowd (they were called a 'family', after all). Nowadays it might be the Man Cubs group, or the ABYverse followers, or the 'Germans' with their Codex09 thread and their crazy continental ways. In every case (in my experience), I have found that the so-called 'cliques' are actually not closed off at all. They are willing and enthusiastic to befriend and welcome other players- but they may not always make the necessary effort to show it. So, for the most part, division of our small community is a matter of quite reasonable misperceptions. IMHO. Anyway, Sirak, I'm very sorry to hear that you've experienced those things. I'm surprised to hear, in particular, that you were asked to leave a game. Finally, Peng, I would have tended to agree with you on Awards...until I took a look at the Hall of Fame. There's actually quite a variety there. There has to be, because the rules dictate that over the course of a year (four seasons) we will have sixteen different individual Award winners. Which is actually quite a lot for such a small community. -----signature----- "Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit, because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure." -Tacitus
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Penguinator-176 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 9/1 9:30pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Again, foot-in-mouth... -----signature----- United States of Eurasia - RECOGNIZED Hoffa GDG
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Winged_Jedi Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 9/2 2:55am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up
	Hey, as I said, I would have agreed with you before I actually checked. My instinctive reaction was the same as yours: 'oh yeah, it's just the same groups all the time'. And that probably is the case for the Stars awards, at least. But it seems the rules for the Main Awards do ensure a reasonable amount of variety. -----signature----- "Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit, because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure." -Tacitus
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Imperial_Hammer Title: Manager: • SWRPF • NSWRPF • RPR Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 9/3 12:07am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - New Plan Now Up - Date Edited: 9/3 12:08am (1 edits total) Edited By: Imperial_Hammer
	Alright alright alright... So... Maybe we just had our cliques discussion? Sounds like there was some hearts changed, some wounds healed, some discoveries made, etc. etc? That'd be nice if the following was all it took! PM me your answer to this question. Why PM? Because we have a GMG to talk about! So the groups/competition line is going out. Does anyone see anything else problematic with the opening post? Once it goes up, its up there. So now is your time to have a voice in the process. Speak now and all that some such! As for my opinion, I like most of it, but I'm a little confused about membership. So, is it open to all like the second sentence says? Oooor do you need to post membership like the third sentence says? And do we really need a membership proviso? I put it in GDG b/c I envisioned it as a sort of community, and its a identity building exercise. But now that we're making the groups more open and welcoming, perhaps this is not even needed? -I_H -----signature----- In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
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greyjedi125 Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 9/3 9:53am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - Now Discussing the Game Masters Group
	Imperial_Hammer posted: And do we really need a membership proviso? I put it in GDG b/c I envisioned it as a sort of community, and its a identity building exercise. But now that we're making the groups more open and welcoming, perhaps this is not even needed? -I_H Hmmm? Well, I'm all for membership, obviously. I'm also cool with the membership options, whether we place it in our sigs or profiles. Having options is always cool. Also, I do believe the GMG needs its own thread because it's inherent in its specifics.(is this what your talking about?) Especially since our focus will be dealing with actual/current/ and ongoing games, rather than ideas and theories which are best suited for the GDG. (does this make sense, am I totally confused/confusing?) All guilds are part of the greater community while serving their individual functions, at least that's how I see it, so in my mind,there isn't any detrimental 'division' of community or union. Again, I may need to re-read all this, since your last question really confused me, Mr. Imprerial Hammer, sir. Majority rules, so if we're going to do this, lets! I really think this is a step in the right direction. And yes, I know we need to be clear on the purpose and focus of these projects...hence these much needed discussions. Anywho, lunch time is over. gtg! Laters folks, -----signature----- "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."_Yoda "I find your lack of Faith disturbing."_ Darth Vader "There is always Hope."_Luke Skywalker "Make me one with everything." (Hungry Monk)_Ameteth
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Imperial_Hammer Title: Manager: • SWRPF • NSWRPF • RPR Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 9/3 10:44am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - Now Discussing the Game Masters Group - Date Edited: 9/3 10:45am (1 edits total) Edited By: Imperial_Hammer
	Hahaha, its probably much more simple than what you read it to be Grey. Simplified: Do we really need to have the whole "put that you're a membership of GMG/GDG/whatever in your profile or sig" stipulation. Or rather, just kill the whole idea of "membership" and post wherever you post. My confusion was that Fins' original post seems to be saying both yes, you need to say that you're a member in your sig/bio, and no you don't have to. Hence, I seek some clarification. -I_H -----signature----- In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
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DarkLordoftheFins Title: RPG & Minis Forum D6 Game Master Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 9/3 10:49am Subject: Revamping the Guilds - Now Discussing the Game Masters Group
	Well my idea is that the thread is open to everyone, but you can "voice your support" by making yourself a member. I have some ideas for the future, which also might require to know who is in a pool and who is not . . . actually I awlays liked that abut guilds. You saw a guy posting and you knew he hangs around in the same thread as you do always . . . -----signature----- Member of the "Triumvirate" - GM of 133 ABY I have seen younger man called old - LordT Some men just wanna watch the world burn . . .
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Penguinator-176 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 9/5 11:26pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - Now Discussing the Game Masters Group
	Considering guild membership has always been free and only ever used to promote a sense of community, I say keep it - if we start getting into crazy requirements to simply add one's two cents to the pot, then I'd be for abolishing it. As far as I can see though, it has done no harm. -----signature----- United States of Eurasia - RECOGNIZED Hoffa GDG
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DarthXan318 Title: RPF Moderatrix off on holiday! Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 9/5 11:26pm Subject: Revamping the Guilds - Now Discussing the Game Masters Group - Date Edited: 9/6 3:39am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthXan318
	Perhaps rephrase it to say "If you like, you can note that you're a member of the Game Masters Group in your signature or bio, but that is not required"? ETA - By the way, as the GMG has been on the table for nearly a week already - is there anything else? Speaketh now or forever hold your peace, etc... -----signature----- Amateurs are amateurs because they do not love the game enough. One of Hammer's Angels
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