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MaraJade4S
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Am mai gasit niste informatii, si vorbind cu Mara, am zis ca mai bine le postez aici sa le vada toata lumea.
Daca nu vreti sa stiti exact ce se intampla in Sacrifice, sa nu cititi mai departe 
Asta e ce mi-a povestit o prietena despre scena mortii Marei:
"Mara was taking on Jacen to protect Ben and that Jacen seemed almost childlike as he realized it was Mara he was supposed to kill to become a Sith, to fulfill his prophecy.
Mara was OF COURSE kicking Jacen's butt (who is heavily influenced by a dark force user- Lumiya) and was going to kill him (she had him in a grip and was bringing a blade or something down on him) when he like transposed Ben's face over his and she hesitated. He pulled a needle, full of poison, from his pocket and stabbed it into her leg when she hesitated. Its painful to read as Mara stumbled backwards, down to her knees and is in a shock like state. She stares at Jacen, clenching/unclenching her fist but unable to do anything else much.
It struck me as awful when Jacen encourages her to just let go, don't go into a healing trance but to just let it go.
Mara tells him: "You think...you've won, but Luke will crush you...and I refuse...to let you...destroy the future...for my Ben." . She then calls out Ben's name.
We cut to Ben who is in the Hapes Cluster following Lumiya and he hears Mara call to him.
Then we cut to Luke who is in his StealthX (near Ben I think) and he feels a change, feels an invisible hand brush against his cheek and then he 'knows that his world has ended'.
From there, Jaina is next and comforting Luke while Han/Leia 'call' him and tell him they're so, so sorry and on their way to him. Corran wants to help but Luke has to do this himself. Reactions (his) didn't do much for me so I skimmed all this and can't say much
about it more.
Ben finds Mara's body and tries to heal her/then sits with her.
Luke goes after Lumiya and (to make it short here) she falls over the cliff as they fight but he saves her this time. He promises to never let her fall again. They lock eyes and then in one swift move, he swings his saber in a decapitating arc toward her. (it was wierd to see Luke stare into her eyes first and then decapitate her).
Then Jacen comes upon Ben with Mara's body and he tells Ben that they will find out who did this. Ben looks at him strangely and Jacen feels as if Ben will find out he was the one who killed Mara.
At the end, Jacen looks in the mirror and dubs himself Darth Cadeus."
And now the part when Luke sees Mara's body. This is from the book:
<<Luke was grateful for something he still couldn’t understand.
He paused before he walked through the doors to the compartment, taking a few deep breaths. Cilghal looked up as he came in, and moved as if to leave.
Mara-no, Mara’s body—lay draped from the neck down in a plain white sheet on an examination table. Luke had steeled himself for something terrible, imagining her horribly disfigured or her features contorted; but she simply looked as if she were sleeping on her back, pale and peaceful, her red hair smoothly tidy in a way it never was when he watched her as she slept.
“It’s okay Cilghal,” he said. “I don’t need to be alone with her.”
“Oh, yes, you do, Luke,” she said softly. “And I can come back later.”
“I don’t understand it,” he said. “But I get to hold her one last time, and I wondered if I ever would. I can’t tell you how grateful I am.”
He couldn’t see Cilghal’s face now. His eyes were hot and brimming. She patted his arm.
“You thought she would become discorporeal,” she said.
“We talked about it once or twice. I thought she might choose that when the time came. I’m glad she changed her mind.”
“She certainly made sure we had evidence.” Cilghal paused for a second, inhaled sharply, and started again. “It was poison, one I’ve never seen before. But I don’t doubt that she also wanted you to be able to say good-bye.”
Cilghal turned and hurried out.
Luke couldn’t speak or even look away from Mara, and spent a long time staring into her face. If her eyes had opened, and she’d asked how long she’d overslept, he wouldn’t have been surprised. He lifted the sheet to clasp her left hand and it was just the chill that made him flinch. After a while the skin felt warm from the heat of his own body.
Cilghal needed forensic evidence for the record. But Lumiya had killed Mara, and Lumiya had paid the price. There was no investigation to follow.
Yet that meant there was no need for Mara to remain now, and Luke was torn between never wanting to take his eyes from her and recalling how Yoda became one with the Force: then he might really see her again. But he understood so little of those elements of mysticism. Right then, he was grateful to settle for watching her.
“You really did want to see me, didn’t you?” he whispered, and leaned over to kiss her. He wondered if she would vanish in the next instant. He didn’t dare look away, and knew that it was only stopping him from accepting that she was gone. Even when he felt Ben walking toward the compartment, and heard him walk softly across the deck, he didn’t turn around. He reached out his left arm so Ben could walk up to him and accept the embrace while Luke watched over Mara.
“Hey, sweetheart,” he said to her. “It’s Ben.”
“I’m sorry you couldn’t find me, Dad,” he said. “I just had to go to her and be there.”
It was the first time Luke had spoken to Ben since before Mara had left: it felt like the first time in ages, in fact. Luke tried to think about what it must have been like for Ben to stand guard over his mother’s body, alone and scared, but he was still too mired in his own grief and shock.
“Dad…I know she’s telling us something. I’ve been thinking about it all the way back.”
Poor kid. Luke didn’t quite understand what his son meant, but they could talk it through later. He was proud of his son’s strength and dignity. Ben could take the other news, too. He did a man’s job now.
“Anyway, I got Lumiya.”
“Yeah?” Ben sounded surprised. “What do you mean, got?”
“I killed her. I won’t dress it up. I owed it to Mara to give her justice.”
Ben was totally silent. Luke felt a small disturbance around him and his muscles stiffened.
“Dad…”
“I know, legal process and all that, but legal process… Lumiya said she had to … well, a life for a life. That’s all.”
“Dad… Dad, it wasn’t Lumiya.”
“It was. She said…”
What exactly had Lumiya said?
“No, no, it can’t be, because I was right next to her at the moment Mom died, nowhere near the scene. We’d landed on Kavan, both of us. She was still in the Sith sphere.”
Luke heard Ben’s voice from a long way away, and everything was upended again.
It wasn’t her. It wasn’t Lumiya.
“Dad, take it easy, okay? We’ll find who did it.” Ben grabbed his shoulders. “Dad, that’s why Mom stayed. She stayed so we could find evidence. We don’t know who did it yet. Forget about Lumiya. You just got to her first-I was going after her before Mom died. You did the galaxy a necessary service.”
No, he hadn’t. Luke didn’t feel he had done that at all. He’d killed Lumiya-evil as she was-for something she hadn’t done. That wasn’t justice.
Luke found himself sinking to his knees. “ I killed the wrong—“
“Sith”
“I killed the wrong person. But she said—“
Ben put his hands on either side of his father’s face, suddenly years older than Luke. “Look at me, Dad. It’s not good to do this here. Let’s talk elsewhere.
“Ben…”
“What about all the other people she killed and had killed? She’s not worth your anguish, Dad. Save your tears for Mom, ‘cos I will.”
Luke managed to hang on for a few more minutes. When he couldn’t stand it any longer, he strode off to his cabin, shut the hatch, and sobbed and ragged in private until he was spent. He’d thought he was bearing up well, holding in all those tears, and then something like Lumiya added a straw to the scales and the floodgates opened. He hated her for that. He’d wanted to weep for Mara, his grief untainted by anything connected with the evil that had led to her death. He didn’t want Lumiya in this moment, and yet somehow she had.
Whoever had killed Mara was still around. He could focus on bringing them to justice, and that meant he had something else to hang on to while he struggled with grief.
But Lumiya had done it again.
She’d fooled him one last time, manipulated him one last time, thwarted him one last time, and it broke something deep, deep inside him.>>
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MaraStardreamer
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Deja am inceput sa vorbesc despre Mara la timpul trecut...
Totusi, mi s-a parut un pic cam rece atitudinea lui Luke si mai ales a lui Ben. Nu stiu daca voi citi cartea. Nu stiu daca voi mai citi carti SW. Fara Mara nu mai au nici un farmec.
Am citit pe forumul de literatura cateva speculatii in legatura cu ultimul volum al seriei, Invincible. Datorita titlului, oamenii sunt tentati sa creada ca Jacen ii va ucide in final si pe Luke, Han si Leia.
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MaraJade4S
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N-am citit asta, dar e posibil... Din comics-uri (cu actiunea peste 100ani) se pare a fost o perioada in care Sith au revenit la putere. Galaxia in vremea lor este dominata de Sith-i.
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Sithlukas
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Da in seria Legacy Sithii au ajuns la putere, insa printr-o alianta cu fortele imperiale(pe care mai tarziu le-au tradat-Krayt devenind imparat). Daca Jacen preia puterea si instituie o conducere Sith atunci ar aparea contraziceri fata de seria Legacy. De asemenea se precizeaza ca Sithii isi revin de abia in acea perioada, lucru ce determina alianta cu Imperiul. Insa perioada ce desparte seriile e de 100 de ani, si intr-o perioada de timp atat de vasta se pot petrece multe schimbari.
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Hmmmm
In mod clar seria star wars se transforma intr-o chestie care nu imi place. Dar probabil ca se apropie sfarsitul, nu? Ca doar oamenii astia nu or trai vesnic. Numai ca e cam nashpa felul in care probabil vor muri.
Caci una e sa mori luptand imotriva unui inamic care iti e strain...si cu totul altceva cand dusmanul e o persoana pe care o cunosti/o iubesti si pe deasupra e si neam cu tine  . Nu stiu ce urmaresc "factorii de decizie" dar in acest moment mie imi este neclar cine va duce saga mai departe (dupa ce Luke, Leia, Han is vor da obstescul sfarsit). Ramanem doar cu Jaina si Ben (asta daca nu, Doamne fereste, ii paste si pe ei sfarsitul sau vor trece si ei de partea intunecata si atunci o sa fie toti... a Big SITH Family )si asta fara intentia de a jigni celelalte personaje, dar ...mno, totul se invartea in jurul celulei Skywalker/Solo. Ah! dar sa nu il uit pe Darth Jacen.
Hmmm...dar totul fiind ciclic probabil o sa ajungem din nou la situatia din episodul IV.
...sau nu.
Hmmmm
treaba asta incepe sa imi ridice mai multe intrebari decat serialul Lost.
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CyberFaust
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ba nu, pentru ca nu e nici un urs polar
pana la urma s-a aflat care e faza cu ursul polar?
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Eu ma intreb ce-i cu fumu'...
P.S. Slava cerului c-au anuntat astia ca S4 va fi ultimul din BSG, ca ramasesera fara mistere
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Fara ursi polari si alte SF-uri in topicul despre Mara 
Nu stiu de ce aveti voi doi pasiunea de a discuta chestiile astea in cu totul alte parti decat le e locul!
Jedi_Umi posted:
Dar probabil ca se apropie sfarsitul, nu? Ca doar oamenii astia nu or trai vesnic.
Desigur, odata si odata trebuie si ei sa moara. Dar cred ca fanii inca nu sunt pregatiti pentru asa ceva. Exista deja comicsuri care se petrec mult timp dupa ce "vechea garda" si-a dat obstescul sfarsit, dar nu cred ca ar fi o miscare inteligenta ca noi sa citim despre aceste evenimente. Ei ar trebui sa ramana nemuritori...
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MaraStardreamer posted:
Fara ursi polari si alte SF-uri in topicul despre Mara
Nu stiu de ce aveti voi doi pasiunea de a discuta chestiile astea in cu totul alte parti decat le e locul!
cateva chestii
1. nu sunt sigur ca lost se poate clasifica ca SF
2. de parca mara nu a intalnit destui ursi la vremea ei 
3. should we respect the fictional dead?
4. ne place rau rau, si de fapt nu noi am inceput
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Ai mare dreptate Mara.
Eu am fost intodeauna fan Han Solo si de multe ori m-am gandit ca atunci cand nu o sa mai fie el universul sw isi va pierde farmecul pt mine. Insa chestia asta poate fi schimbata in timp prin "urmasii" vechii generatii ( de asta nu mi-a placut de loc faza cu gandacii -the killiks - cine puii mei vrea sa vad ca personaju principal se transforma in...insecta). Dar sincer mi se pare ca "autorii" dau cu stangul in dreptul si distrug ce au cladit pana acum.
Si intradevar eu ca si fan nu sunt pregatita pentru asa ceva. No way Jose!!!!
hmmm...life is a b**ch!!!
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Daca Lucas va alege sa ne spuna cum vor muri eroii principali, va face o mare greseala dupa parerea mea. Ar demoraliza fanii - la fel cum s-a intamplat cu moartea Marei - si ma indoiesc ca va face mai multi bani cu ei morti decat vii.
In alta ordine de idei, am vorbit cu Diva si am ajuns la concluzia ca ar fi cazul sa demaram un nou concurs de fan-fic-uri, in amintirea Marei Jade. Puteti alege orice subiect doriti, cu conditia ca personajul principal sa fie desigur Mara.
Pentru ca e perioada de examene m-am gandit sa pun un termen mai lung, 1 august sa zicem. Iar premierea sa se faca la Timisoara, cu ocazia filmarilor.
Ce parere aveti?
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Bine.
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no problemo
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CyberFaust posted:
MaraStardreamer posted:
Fara ursi polari si alte SF-uri in topicul despre Mara
Nu stiu de ce aveti voi doi pasiunea de a discuta chestiile astea in cu totul alte parti decat le e locul!
cateva chestii
1. nu sunt sigur ca lost se poate clasifica ca SF
2. de parca mara nu a intalnit destui ursi la vremea ei
3. should we respect the fictional dead?
4. ne place rau rau, si de fapt nu noi am inceput
pt CyberFaust:
eu nu am clasificat lost ca si SF
spuneam doar ca ridica multe intrebari
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mara did
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