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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/20/06 10:28pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	That's a good reading of the prophecy, ElfinArcher. I agree.
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Moleman1138 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/21/06 3:55pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Can a part of a soul be placed into a person or thing without resulting in murder and the Horcrux spell, whatever that is. So it would be part of Voldemort's soul in Harry, but not a horcrux. -----signature----- Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers (8/24/07)
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JedimasterMoon Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 1/21/06 4:12pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Does the next movie come out in 2007? -----signature----- On The Road To My Dreams Under The Sun SO Seriously How Many Awards Have I Won?
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Moleman1138 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/21/06 9:58pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Order of the Phoenix should be released 6/1/07. Expect a trailer this Christmas. -----signature----- Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers (8/24/07)
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Amon_Amarth Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/23/06 3:04pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	'You can speak Parseltongue, Harry,' said Dumbledore camly, 'because Lord Voldemort - who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin - can speak Parseltongue. Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I'm sure . . .' 'Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?' Harry said, thunderstruck. 'It certainly seems so.' There are certain parts of the books whic indicates Harry might be a Horcrux, but when one looks at all 6 books carefuly, that seems unlikely. If Harry is a Horcrux, Dumbledore would have probably known that. And Dumbledore always said that Harry must live. If Harry is a Horcrux, sooner or later he has to destroy himself or be destroyed in order to destroy Voldemort. I don't think Dumbledore ever planed that. He seemed very keen on keeping Harry alive. However, both options may be true. We cannot be sure until the book 7. -----signature----- Jedi Guardian - Acolytes of Revan "The Force is fine...but I would have preferred some company." 'Caenorhabditis elegans' is much better than Darth Plagueis at cheating death. "Don't **** with the Jedi Master, son!" Mark Hamill, CE
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/23/06 7:34pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	I still don't see him as being a Horcrux, yes, Voldermort transferred some of his powers to him, however, there's a huge plot hole there. If Harry's got to destroy all of the Horcruxes before he can kill Voldermort, then how can he kill himself and still kill Voldermort? I suppose there could be a way, but remember trying to kill each other using wands and magic really doesn't work. In GOF their wands crossed and didn't allow for them to kill each other, and Harry fought off Voldermort w/ love when Voldie tried to possess him. Every time that he's felt Voldermort inside of him, he's still completely conscious of himself and his own thoughts and emotions. If Voldermort had him made him as a Horcrux, then technically he should be able to take over Harry completely w/o Harry knowing. I can see that it would make for a dramatic ending that Harry would have to make the ultimate sacrifice if he was a Horcrux, but I just don't see JK doing that. I do suppose she might've been thinking about it all along, we do know that she thought of originally inserting stuff about the Horcruxes in COS and didn't, so she had already thought about them for a long time. Did she think originally that HARRY would be one and that was his scar? I don't know, I just can't see her thinking that. Rather like others have said, the biggest desire of his heart is to have a family - the Weasleys and Ginny are his family. I just can't see JK ripping him away from them in the end. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/23/06 9:11pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	I have stated it numerous times in this thread, and I'll state it again. Harry does not have to die if he is a horcrux
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Moleman1138 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/24/06 7:21pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Could the blood of the enemy from GOF have something to do with this. I can't remember if Harry can talk parselmouth after GOF. But somewhere in OOTP I remember something. If he can't then he lost what Voldemort had given him. If he can, then it's like Harry has to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the Wizarding World. -----signature----- Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers (8/24/07)
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/24/06 8:57pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Grrrr - as Dumbledore stated (Sorry don't have my book in front of me) all 7 of the horcruxes MUST be destroyed before Voldermort can die. If Harry is a Horcrux and he "kills" Voldermort, then in theory, Voldermort can somehow still live on inside of him. Harry would have to either die or die at the same moment that he's killing Voldermort for the Dark Lord to be dead once and for all. JK spells this out very clearly in HBP - I can't see that she's going to make some strange loophole to allow Harry to fry Voldermort and still be able to live w/ being the last horcrux. The scar would need to be destroyed...ok...how in the heck would they manage that without maiming Harry? The scar's now every bit a part of him as his ability to speak Parsletongue. Trust me, it would make perfect, logical sense for the scar to be the last horcrux, and perhaps it is, I just don't see how they're going to manage to get rid of the darned thing w/o killing Harry in the process. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/24/06 10:09pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Moleman, Harry can understand Parseltongue in HBP - he can understand what Morfin Gaunt is saying, remember? Alright. The Riddle Diary is not destroyed completely, yet the Horcrux in it is. The Gaunt ring is not completely destroyed, yet the Horcrux in it is. The only two Horcruxes we have met so far have not been completely obliterated, why does Harry have to be? And certainly if Voldemort's attempted possession of Harry is anything to go by, I'm betting he could no longer survive soley in Harry if all other parts (including his current body) were destroyed. I'm betting Harry could easily destroy the Horcrux in himself from within.
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Jedi_Master_Conor Title: Manager: • SFF: Movies Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 1/25/06 11:18am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	i have a feeling we wont seeing much of hogwarts in this one. we'll definitely visit it for a chapter or 2 but it wont be prominent i think
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Moleman1138 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/25/06 11:29am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	TheBoogieMan posted: Moleman, Harry can understand Parseltongue in HBP - he can understand what Morfin Gaunt is saying, remember? Alright. The Riddle Diary is not destroyed completely, yet the Horcrux in it is. The Gaunt ring is not completely destroyed, yet the Horcrux in it is. The only two Horcruxes we have met so far have not been completely obliterated, why does Harry have to be? And certainly if Voldemort's attempted possession of Harry is anything to go by, I'm betting he could no longer survive soley in Harry if all other parts (including his current body) were destroyed. I'm betting Harry could easily destroy the Horcrux in himself from within. Sorry Boogie. I forgot. Bad memory on my part. -----signature----- Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers (8/24/07)
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/25/06 2:28pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	I picked up SS last night and just reading the opening chapter, I think I'm about to eat my socks on my belief that Harry's scar isn't a horcrux. I think it's all there from the very first chapter. In front of the Dursleys when MacGonnigal and Dumbledore are talking, she asks about if Dumbledore would/should do anything about his scar, Dumbledore says to the effect "I wouldn't even if I could, scars can be very useful why I have one on my knee shaped like London's busline" (paraphrasing, please don't take that for gospel ) Perhaps the scar's going to alert him by throbbing whenever he gets close to a horcrux and then towards the end he realizes that he's the last one and by the time he's destroyed the rest of them, he should be experienced enough to destroy it. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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Moleman1138 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/25/06 2:46pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	If so then it should have "throbbed" when he read Tom Riddle's diary and he should of realized in the cave in HBP that the locket was a fake. I agree that it is like a detector of evil, but not a horcrux. Sort of like Frodo's blade Sting, glowing blue when Orcs are around. -----signature----- Host of CBC (Chapter by Chapter) for PT, CT and SFF forums and Box Office Game ROTS-DS Chapter 3: Seeds of Rebellion FOTR Chapter 29: Bilbo's Gifts TSS Chapter 17: Facts and Feathers (8/24/07)
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/25/06 3:17pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Well that's true I guess the scar didn't react to the diary or the ring before Dumbledore destroyed it. I guess it's just the horcrux then. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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