Author Topic: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
RebelScum77 
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Date Posted: 1/4/06 7:21am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Moleman1138 posted:
That's an old rumor like Green-Flame Torch and Pyramids of Furmat. I'm telling you guys that the last horcrux will be in the title.

Plus if you look at it.

1. Sorcerer's Stone (thing)
2. Chamber of Secrets (place)
3. Prisoner of Azkaban (person)
4. Goblet of Fire (thing)
5. Order of the Phoenix (person)
6. Half-Blood Prince (person)
7. (thing or place)



Oh no! There's was enough of this when people were trying to figure out the name of Episode III. tongue I don't think there's any relevance.

 

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Date Posted: 1/4/06 7:46am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Fawkes or Harry.

 

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darth_frared 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 1/4/06 2:13pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
not sure this belongs here (and i'm not an avid potter reader). any clues as to how the prophecy will play out without having harry die?

 

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Amon_Amarth 
Registered: Jan '05
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Date Posted: 1/4/06 3:05pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
darth_frared posted:
not sure this belongs here (and i'm not an avid potter reader). any clues as to how the prophecy will play out without having harry die?


Naven't got a clue. But there always is a chance that neville is teh Chosen One. Well, Harry is the Chosen One becouse Voldemort has chosen him, but there still is a possibility...

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/4/06 9:16pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I think that the last Horcrux is the Mirror of Erised. That would bring the whole series around nicely, wouldn't it? Harry defeating Voldemort at exactly the same spot he defeated him at in the first book. Go back and read the original discription of the mirror. It certainly is ornate and magical enough to be a possesion of a Rowena Ravenclaw, one of Hogwarts Founders. Plus, the whole thing stood on two clawed feet, resembling a raven's claw, perhaps?

 

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Sith_Priestess 
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Date Posted: 1/4/06 9:58pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
That's really interesting, Zebra, I had never thought of that. *goes back to read the passage*

I don't know what the last horcrux is, but I do know that I think Harry haas to die. People will clamor for more books if Harry lives and I think JKR is ready to be rid of him.

As far as other deaths go, I think it has to be Ron. I love Ron so much, but he has never really done a huge amount, but is important enough to shake a lot of people and the affect it would have on both Harry and Hermione would make it a pivotal plot moment. I think Lupin and maybe even Hagrid, as the last of Harry's protectors are going to die too so that Harry faces Voldemort alone.

 

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Padawan716 
Registered: Feb '01
Date Posted: 1/4/06 10:59pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/4/06 11:00pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Padawan716
Woohoo, I am completely friggin blind.

You may spank me for my complete idiocy.

 

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Liesl 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 1:40am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
After reading HP and the Half-Blood Prince, I was convinced Harry was a holocrux. Now, the idea that the Mirror Erised is one makes me reconsider Harry being it. And also the fact the Dumbledore had a lot to do with the mirror convinces me even more.

 

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darth_frared 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 2:39am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Amon_Amarth posted:
darth_frared posted:
not sure this belongs here (and i'm not an avid potter reader). any clues as to how the prophecy will play out without having harry die?


Naven't got a clue. But there always is a chance that neville is teh Chosen One. Well, Harry is the Chosen One becouse Voldemort has chosen him, but there still is a possibility...
nah, i s'pose it's just a red herring. harry is the chosen one. what interests me is that if the prophrecy says they either both live or both die and i don't want harry dead... what will happen?

 

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TheBoogieMan 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 3:32am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/5/06 3:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: TheBoogieMan
PadmeLeiaJaina, I was aware that JKR had quashed the Ginny-is-a-horcrux rumour, but where did she quash the Harry one? Could you get us the exact wording, please, as we all know that JKR is a master of double-meanings and red herrings.

Personally, unless JKR has quashed the rumour I'm inclined to think that Harry is indeed a Horcrux. It makes so much sense. Similarly, this doesn't necessarily mean that Harry will die, or has to die before killing Voldemort.

1. The peices of soul do not have to be destroyed in order. If Harry kills the Voldemort bit, and destroys all others, he may wait until the end to destroy himself.

2. The Gaunt ring was still intact after having the soul removed, as Dumbledore was wearing it after he blackened his hand. Again, the Riddle diary was also not completely destroyed. Does it then follow that Harry can have the Horcrux destroyed and not himself in the process?

Bearing in mind that the last word of the last book is so far confirmed to be "scar". We also know that this is in a chapter detailing "what happens to the survivors". This implies that Harry is alive, and it also implies that his scar has something important to do with the end. Could it possibly be a sentence like this, signaling that the Horcrux was a physical mark of the Horcrux?

"Harry gazed happily at his reflection in the mirror. His eyes were drawn to where he was once marked by Voldemort as his equal, at the empty space where there once was a lightning-shaped scar."


EDIT: I found this interesting quote at Madame Scoops: "I wanted him to be physically marked by what he has been through. It was an outward expression of what he has been through inside. I gave him a scar and in a prominent place so other people would recognize him. It is almost like being the chosen one, or the cursed one, in a sense. Someone tried to kill him; that's how he got it. I chose the lightning bolt because it was the most plausible shape for a distinctive scar. As you know, the scar has certain powers, and it gives Harry warnings. I can't say more than that, but there is more to say."

 

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darth_frared 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 5:59am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
now i have no idea what a horcruz is and all but it looks like a possible solution to me that he destroys a part of himself rather than dies just like that.

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 6:08am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Boogie-- That quote is from an interview that Rowling did with MuggleNet and The Leaky Cauldron not long after book six was released.

For anyone who's interested, it can be found Right Here. Obviously she doesn't give away any spoilers, but she does drop hints in more than one one spot about important things to keep in mind or to look for in book 7.

I also think Dumbledore is dead.

 

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Date Posted: 1/5/06 6:39am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Zebra, as far as I can see Rowling only denies Ginny being possessed in that interview.

 

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Date Posted: 1/5/06 6:44am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
She also says she wonders now if the last word of book seven will be scar.

 

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Date Posted: 1/5/06 7:12am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/5/06 7:16am (1 edits total) Edited By: RebelScum77
Sith_Priestess posted:
I don't know what the last horcrux is, but I do know that I think Harry haas to die. People will clamor for more books if Harry lives and I think JKR is ready to be rid of him.


Actually a while back she admitted that it wasn't out of the question that there'd be more HP books post-Hogwarts... though now she says she's pretty sure it will be the last. I wonder if she's truly made up her mind.

 

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