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Zebra3 Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/5/06 1:58pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Good point jedichef1. Harry certainly isn't arrogant like Voldemort. darth_frared-- not ignoring you. But I seem to recall a passage in HBP where Dumbledore mentions that there are a lot of prophesies in the Department of Mysteries that have never been fulfilled. Looking for the exact quote now... -----signature----- recipient of the coveted Corellian Ewokstripes with bronze cluster My icon archive -- > http://zebra3icons.bravehost.com/main1.html I'm currently reading Han Solo's Revenge I'm currently playing Tomb Raider Anniversary
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darth_frared Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 1/5/06 2:05pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	yeah, sorry. the thing is that i haven't even read all the books. so i need you to fill me in. i just talk with HP fans and try to make sense of things.. so, just to reiterate, by definition, prophecies can't just not be fulfilled, i think. if it's divined etc, it will happen. no matter how much you don't want it to (and i imagine hary is somewhat less enthusiastic about his prophecy) and usually chosen ones die in the process. there is lee-way in terms of how and when but not in ifs. i'm not above dumbledore, of course, but if JKR uses the word prophecy i think she should darn well be aware of it being connotated with always coming true. -----signature----- illegalise stupidity.
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DarthAttorney Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 1/5/06 2:28pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	"why does the prophecy stop? makes no sense to me." What I was saying is that the prohpecy will be fulfilled, one of the comnatants will kill the other and that it will be Voldemort who kills Harry. Prophecy complete, explained. If Harry is the last horcrux, it means that if Voldemort kills him he'll be making himself mortal again, allowing anyone else in the wizarding world to kill him. I speculated that it'd be Snape. -----signature----- http://www.millenniumfalcon.com OMG I LUB U
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Zebra3 Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/5/06 2:37pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Harry as a Horcrux just doesn't make sense to me. We know that Voldemort wants to kill Harry and always has. He's tried to kill him four times now. Why would he make a Horcrux out of something that he is desparately tring to destroy. That would completely defeat the purpose of finding a safe place to put part of his soul. Nothing is more important to Voldemort than himself. He would never think of destroying one of his horcuxes. -----signature----- recipient of the coveted Corellian Ewokstripes with bronze cluster My icon archive -- > http://zebra3icons.bravehost.com/main1.html I'm currently reading Han Solo's Revenge I'm currently playing Tomb Raider Anniversary
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Amon_Amarth Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/5/06 3:17pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	zebra3 posted: Nothing is more important to Voldemort than himself. Exactly. That is why he may thinks that Harry coul'd never harm he, that he couldn't destroy the last Horcrux - himself. Just a thought, but it is very possible. -----signature----- Jedi Guardian - Acolytes of Revan "The Force is fine...but I would have preferred some company." 'Caenorhabditis elegans' is much better than Darth Plagueis at cheating death. "Don't **** with the Jedi Master, son!" Mark Hamill, CE
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Zebra3 Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 1/5/06 3:22pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	But Voldemort himself has tried on numerous occasions to kill Harry. Why would Voldemort make a horcrux out of something that's he's been trying to destroy? It seems impossible that he would place a portion of his soul in something that he wants to see wiped off the face of the Earth, thus destroying a part of himself in the process. -----signature----- recipient of the coveted Corellian Ewokstripes with bronze cluster My icon archive -- > http://zebra3icons.bravehost.com/main1.html I'm currently reading Han Solo's Revenge I'm currently playing Tomb Raider Anniversary
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LadyPadme Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 3:47pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	I really doubt Harry will be the last Horcrux. I think the last Horcrux will be something that's been staring us in the face through all six of the other books, but which hadn't been noticed before. I like the idea of the Mirror of Erised. -----signature----- Crest MD Naimé Evil Twin of Gabri_Jade When a baby smiles the world is happy VOTE OBAMA '08
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AmberStarbright Title: FF Halton Canada Banner Artist Registered: Dec '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 5:05pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Watch it be something silly like the scar -----signature----- "There's enough filth on my robes without you touching them." I Mike http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501317463 Marauder
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DarthAttorney Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 1/5/06 5:05pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/5/06 5:15pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthAttorney
	"Why would Voldemort make a horcrux out of something that's he's been trying to destroy?" Maybe it was an accidental thing when Voldemort tried to kill Harry first time round? Harry certainly picked up some other odd traits from Voldemort for no real reason...maybe Voldemort doesn't know that Harry is the final horcrux? I admit that it's the weakest part of the arguement Edit: speeling -----signature----- http://www.millenniumfalcon.com OMG I LUB U
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 5:40pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Grrrrr....once again, Harry cannot be the horcrux. It would seemingly work for Harry to be a horcrux since he killed Lily at the time when he cast the spell. However, Voldermort was casting the Avada Kavarda (sp?), not a Horcrux spell when he was trying to kill Harry. If Harry WAS a horcrux, he would be constantly possessed by Voldermort, which he is not. The last horcrux is something else entirely. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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DarthAttorney Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 1/5/06 7:06pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Someone remind me why Snape had to teach Harry occlumency in OoTP? -----signature----- http://www.millenniumfalcon.com OMG I LUB U
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PadmeLeiaJaina Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/5/06 7:22pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Because it was supposed to prevent Voldermort from being able to access his mind while he slept and prevent Harry from seeing into Voldermort's mind. -----signature----- Check out my STAR WARS Fan Site! http://www.freewebs.com/padmeleiajaina/ Join my Sarah Connor Chronicles board! http://tsccsociety.proboards52.com/
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DarthAttorney Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 1/5/06 8:10pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	Sounds vaguely like possession to me -----signature----- http://www.millenniumfalcon.com OMG I LUB U
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masterluke9 Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 1/5/06 8:22pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	[quote=TheBoogieMan]Bearing in mind that the last word of the last book is so far confirmed to be "scar". We also know that this is in a chapter detailing "what happens to the survivors". This implies that Harry is alive, and it also implies that his scar has something important to do with the end. Could it possibly be a sentence like this, signaling that the Horcrux was a physical mark of the Horcrux? "Harry gazed happily at his reflection in the mirror. His eyes were drawn to where he was once marked by Voldemort as his equal, at the empty space where there once was a lightning-shaped scar." quote] i think the final line will be something like this because rowling has expressed that she's sick of Harry. "As his friends looked down at the coffin of Harry they noticed magicly the dissaperance of his scar."
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TheBoogieMan Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/5/06 8:29pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
	If Harry is a horcrux it is accidental and Voldemort doesn't know about it. Think about this: Voldemort was trying to make his final Horcrux with the death of Harry. Voldemort tries to kill Harry, it doesn't work, but the Horcrux spell does and instead (without V's knowledge) implants itself in Harry. It's possible.
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