Author Topic: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
PadmeLeiaJaina 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 8:53pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Well according to Mugglenet, these are the only CONFIRMED debunked items from JK herself about book 7:

Listen carefully, I shall say this only once: the only sources you should trust concerning information on the Half-Blood Prince are official spokespeople for my publishers and my official website.

- JK Rowling, JKRowling.com



* The title of the book will not be "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat."

* There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be.

* Dumbledore is not a relative of Harry.

* Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.

* Lily Potter is not alive.

* Lily was not a Death Eater.

* No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts).

* Crookshanks is not an Animagus.

* Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew. (Where do these people come up with this stuff?!)

* Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.

* JK does not have any parts in the films.


Note, nothing about Harry being a Horcrux, however I swear I read an article w/ her somewhere that she flat out stated that Ginny nor Harry are horcruxes...she said it just wasn't possible. I'll have to hunt for the article.

 

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Date Posted: 1/5/06 9:24pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
If JK said that Mugglenet would have had it on their site

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 11:00pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I was wondering if the horcrux was something not mentioned really like something of Ravenclaw or maybe the sword of Gryffyndor. I do like the Mirror of Erised theory makes alot more sense to me than Harry being a horcrux. Like Zebra said why would Voldermort want to kill Harry if he has a part of him in Harry. That's sucide really and Voldermort is going thru a lot of trouble for anyone to find the horcrux's too. I also wonder if Dumbledore's picture in his office or should i say Headmistress McGonagall's office would help at least with advice.

It just popped in my mind Harry's wand is the brother of Voldermort's wand i know it seems simple but i wonder other than not working properly against eachothers wand has a little more to do with it being a horcrux of course it's a long shot but you never know.

 

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jedichef1 
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Date Posted: 1/5/06 11:48pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I have serious doubts iver the mirror being the horcrux, if it were then voldemort would have known what it was in PS and would have known how it worked. Ok he told Quirrell to use the boy but in no way did he explain how to use it.

As for harry being the horcrux, i can see why people would think that but slughorn said there is a spell to make a horcrux and as voldemort was ripped from his body as the AK curse rebounded on him how did he manage to make the horcrux and say the spell as the curse failed and his soul would not have been ripped as it needed to be ?

 

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TheBoogieMan 
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 10:20pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I'll say it again: If Harry is a Horcrux it was entirely accidental and Voldemort does not know it, although he may suspect. Notice no attempts by Voldemort to kill Potter since GOF? In fact, his death eaters appear to be under orders not to attack him, and save it for the Dark Lord.

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/6/06 10:32pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
TheBoogieMan posted:
I'll say it again: If Harry is a Horcrux it was entirely accidental and Voldemort does not know it, although he may suspect. Notice no attempts by Voldemort to kill Potter since GOF? In fact, his death eaters appear to be under orders not to attack him, and save it for the Dark Lord.


That's true so that could be a possibility.

 

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Amon_Amarth 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:46am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Yeah, I was wrong when it comes to Harry=horcrux theory. I haven't really thoght about Voldemort trying to kill him. Still, there is a slight possibility that Harry has something to do with the horcruxes...

JEDI_TEEGIRLOO posted:
I do like the Mirror of Erised theory makes alot more sense to me than Harry being a horcrux.


I'm not so sure. Voldemort did face the mirror in Book 1 and it didn't seem like he knew how to use it, nor anything about its powers.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 4:32am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
So what about "Harry and the Horcruxes" for the title of the seventh book? tongue

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 4:45am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Ummm... I'm gonna give a big negatory on that one Boog tongue

How about Harry Potter and the End? tongue

 

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TheBoogieMan 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 4:51am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Awww . . . maybe Harry can form a band after book seven and call it that instead . . . tongue

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 10:27am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
PadmeLeiaJaina posted:
Well according to Mugglenet, these are the only CONFIRMED debunked items from JK herself about book 7:

Listen carefully, I shall say this only once: the only sources you should trust concerning information on the Half-Blood Prince are official spokespeople for my publishers and my official website.

- JK Rowling, JKRowling.com



* The title of the book will not be "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat."

* There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be.

* Dumbledore is not a relative of Harry.

* Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.

* Lily Potter is not alive.

* Lily was not a Death Eater.

* No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts).

* Crookshanks is not an Animagus.

* Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew. (Where do these people come up with this stuff?!)

* Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.

* JK does not have any parts in the films.


Note, nothing about Harry being a Horcrux, however I swear I read an article w/ her somewhere that she flat out stated that Ginny nor Harry are horcruxes...she said it just wasn't possible. I'll have to hunt for the article.




I thought I remembered that article also. Not sure where, but I thought I remembered having read that neither Ginny nor Harry are Horcruxes because of the fact that they would have to be constantly possessed all the time.

Really interesting speculation. I'm not sure what to think of Snape, but he's so incredibly complex that just when you think you have him figured out he does something that throws you for a loop. I'll buy into the theory that he did it on Dumbledore's orders having sworn an oath to protect Harry for now. Can't wait for the seventh book grin


 

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Moleman1138 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 10:55am Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I am totally backing the Mirror of Erised as a horcrux

Jo doesn't throw things in haphazardly. I continued to analyze and analyze and everything is starting to fit.

1. Sorcerer's Stone
Horcrux: (Mirror of Erised - Ravenclaw Heirloom)
"Only something who wanted to find the stone and not use it could get it through the mirror"
DADA: Quirell (Wanted to use the stone)

2. Chamber of Secrets
Horcrux: (Tom Riddle's Diary)
"Used to manipulate Ginny into opening the Chamber of Secrets"
DADA: Lockhart (Sent down into the Chamber due to his "expertise")

3. Prisoner of Azkaban
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup? or Gryffindor Heirloom?)
"Don't know the relation of Hufflepuff to Lupin and Sirius / Gryffindor heirloom would work"
DADA: Lupin (He was the leak that brought Sirius the POA to Hogwarts/Hogsmeade)

4. Goblet of Fire
Horcrux: (Voldemort himself)
"Moody manipulated TriWizard Tourament to get Harry to the Dark Lord (what soul was left)"
DADA: Moody (Really Barty Crouch Jr. who manipulated the GOF and sent Harry to Voldemort)

5. Order of the Phoenix
Horcrux: (Slytherin Locket - Slytherin Heirloom)
"At #12 Grimmauld Place, Headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix"
DADA: Umbridge (some relationship to the locket and OOTP)

6. Half-Blood Prince
Horcrux: (Gaunt Ring)
"Dumbledore destroyed the Gaunt Ring"
DADA: Snape (Killed the destroyer of the Gaunt Ring and is the Half-Blood Prince)

7. (Unknown Title)
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup, Gryffindor Heirloom or Nagini)
"unknown how horcrux will be related to DADA and title"
DADA: Unknown (somehow will be related to the title and the horcrux)

Everything is starting to fit quite nicely now. There's a few small things to be ironed out, but I think I've got this down.

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 1:27pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Moleman1138 posted:
I am totally backing the Mirror of Erised as a horcrux

Jo doesn't throw things in haphazardly. I continued to analyze and analyze and everything is starting to fit.

1. Sorcerer's Stone
Horcrux: (Mirror of Erised - Ravenclaw Heirloom)
"Only something who wanted to find the stone and not use it could get it through the mirror"
DADA: Quirell (Wanted to use the stone)

2. Chamber of Secrets
Horcrux: (Tom Riddle's Diary)
"Used to manipulate Ginny into opening the Chamber of Secrets"
DADA: Lockhart (Sent down into the Chamber due to his "expertise")

3. Prisoner of Azkaban
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup? or Gryffindor Heirloom?)
"Don't know the relation of Hufflepuff to Lupin and Sirius / Gryffindor heirloom would work"
DADA: Lupin (He was the leak that brought Sirius the POA to Hogwarts/Hogsmeade)

4. Goblet of Fire
Horcrux: (Voldemort himself)
"Moody manipulated TriWizard Tourament to get Harry to the Dark Lord (what soul was left)"
DADA: Moody (Really Barty Crouch Jr. who manipulated the GOF and sent Harry to Voldemort)

5. Order of the Phoenix
Horcrux: (Slytherin Locket - Slytherin Heirloom)
"At #12 Grimmauld Place, Headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix"
DADA: Umbridge (some relationship to the locket and OOTP)

6. Half-Blood Prince
Horcrux: (Gaunt Ring)
"Dumbledore destroyed the Gaunt Ring"
DADA: Snape (Killed the destroyer of the Gaunt Ring and is the Half-Blood Prince)

7. (Unknown Title)
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup, Gryffindor Heirloom or Nagini)
"unknown how horcrux will be related to DADA and title"
DADA: Unknown (somehow will be related to the title and the horcrux)

Everything is starting to fit quite nicely now. There's a few small things to be ironed out, but I think I've got this down.


Interesting Mole i never thought of it the way you put it. thinking

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 1:52pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Moleman1138 posted:
I am totally backing the Mirror of Erised as a horcrux

cool

That's a great list! Looking back on the previous books now I'm always amazed to see how well Rowling's made those individual bits and pieces fit together. For the readers it's like trying to put together a jugsaw puzzle without seeing the whole picture.

But there's a little problem with this one:
Moleman1138 posted:
3. Prisoner of Azkaban
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup? or Gryffindor Heirloom?)
"Don't know the relation of Hufflepuff to Lupin and Sirius / Gryffindor heirloom would work"
DADA: Lupin (He was the leak that brought Sirius the POA to Hogwarts/Hogsmeade)

Lupin wasn't the leak that brought Sirius to Hogwarts. What really brought Sirius to the school was seeing Scabbers (aka Wormtail, aka Peter Pettigrew) on the front page of The Daily Prophet that Fudge had given him during his inspection of Azkaban over the summer. He read the article and learned that Ron (who was holding Scabbers) was going to be at Hogwarts. Naturally Sirius assumed the rat would go with him.

... Or did I just misinterpret what you meant by Lupin being the leak? confused If so, I appoligize.

 

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Moleman1138 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:00pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I haven't read POA in over a year but I do remember the line from the movie that Snape said.

"I told Dumbledore that you were helping an old friend into the castle and here's the proof."

Anyways there is a friendship between the DADA and the Title Character (Lupin and Sirius) I just can't think of a Horcrux that would be related to both of them unless it was the Gryffindor heirloom.

The Hufflepuff cup is difficult to place.

 

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