Author Topic: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:09pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/7/06 2:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zebra3
"I told Dumbledore that you were helping an old friend into the castle and here's the proof."

That's the line that they give to Snape when he bursts in on the party in the Shrieking Shack. He sees them together, Lupin obviously not attempting to take Sirius into custody, and jumps to the conclusion that Lupin's helping him.

If there's one thing that I have to say that I don't like about the POA movie is that it's not explained well how Sirius knew that Pettigrew would be at Hogwarts. They could have added a line in that scene about how he got the paper from Fudge during his visit. Otherwise, if you don't know the books, then you'll be thinking..

"Okay.. so he comes to Hogwarts and is apparently looking for Harry. No! That's just ared herring because Black's actually looking for.... Pettigrew... who is actually Scabbers? How exactly did he know that Scabbers would be at Hogwarts? For that matter! How did he even know that the guy he apparently saw blown to smithereens was still alive in the first place? Where's my asprin?"

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:33pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Anyways there is a friendship between the DADA and the Title Character (Lupin and Sirius) I just can't think of a Horcrux that would be related to both of them unless it was the Gryffindor heirloom.


Yeah i agree the only thing that comes to mind is the mirror that Sirius gave Harry to keep in touch with him in OOTP it may have been used by all the Mauruders they probably found it at Hogwarts using some a secret passage way that Riddle used 50 yrs ago....... just a guess.

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:39pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/7/06 2:40pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Zebra3
That's a good point about the mirror. In that Mugglenet/Leaky Cauldron interview Rowling did say that the mirror was off te table. Which makes me think it's pretty important...

 

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Moleman1138 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:40pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
But 2 mirrors (Erised and Sirius') as horcruxes? confused Seems kind of redundant.

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:42pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/7/06 2:51pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Zebra3
Not necessarily both of them being Horcruxes. But something about some morror is definately important.

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:50pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Zebra3 posted:
Not necessarily both of them being Horcruxes. But something about some morror is definately important.


Right and the one in OOTP isnt mentioned much but if it isnt a horcrux i think it maybe able to help Harry in some sort of way.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 2:51pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I'm going back through that interview now to see if I can dig up those quotes about the mirror. and I also found this quote about Ginny from the same interview. It's on Page three towards the bottom http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview3.shtml :

MA: Someone put it to me last night, that if Ginny, with the diary -

JKR: Harry definitely destroyed that piece of soul, you saw it take shape, you saw it destroyed, it’s gone. And Ginny is definitely in no way possessed by Voldemort.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:12pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
TheBoogieMan posted:
Awww . . . maybe Harry can form a band after book seven and call it that instead . . .

laugh LOL


Moleman1138 posted:
I am totally backing the Mirror of Erised as a horcrux

Jo doesn't throw things in haphazardly. I continued to analyze and analyze and everything is starting to fit.

1. Sorcerer's Stone
Horcrux: (Mirror of Erised - Ravenclaw Heirloom)
"Only something who wanted to find the stone and not use it could get it through the mirror"
DADA: Quirell (Wanted to use the stone)

2. Chamber of Secrets
Horcrux: (Tom Riddle's Diary)
"Used to manipulate Ginny into opening the Chamber of Secrets"
DADA: Lockhart (Sent down into the Chamber due to his "expertise")

3. Prisoner of Azkaban
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup? or Gryffindor Heirloom?)
"Don't know the relation of Hufflepuff to Lupin and Sirius / Gryffindor heirloom would work"
DADA: Lupin (He was the leak that brought Sirius the POA to Hogwarts/Hogsmeade)

4. Goblet of Fire
Horcrux: (Voldemort himself)
"Moody manipulated TriWizard Tourament to get Harry to the Dark Lord (what soul was left)"
DADA: Moody (Really Barty Crouch Jr. who manipulated the GOF and sent Harry to Voldemort)

5. Order of the Phoenix
Horcrux: (Slytherin Locket - Slytherin Heirloom)
"At #12 Grimmauld Place, Headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix"
DADA: Umbridge (some relationship to the locket and OOTP)

6. Half-Blood Prince
Horcrux: (Gaunt Ring)
"Dumbledore destroyed the Gaunt Ring"
DADA: Snape (Killed the destroyer of the Gaunt Ring and is the Half-Blood Prince)

7. (Unknown Title)
Horcrux: (Hufflepuff Cup, Gryffindor Heirloom or Nagini)
"unknown how horcrux will be related to DADA and title"
DADA: Unknown (somehow will be related to the title and the horcrux)

Everything is starting to fit quite nicely now. There's a few small things to be ironed out, but I think I've got this down.

Wow. That is a very nice theory. It could easily work, though I don't think Umbridge has something to do with the horcruxes.

TEEGIRLOO posted:
Yeah i agree the only thing that comes to mind is the mirror that Sirius gave Harry to keep in touch with him in OOTP it may have been used by all the Mauruders they probably found it at Hogwarts using some a secret passage way that Riddle used 50 yrs ago....... just a guess.


I had thought of that mirror too, but I don't think it would work. Surely Voldemort wouldn't let his horcrux just lying around somwhere in the school. Remeber how he secured the locket. And is R.A.B. is Regalus Black, surely he would destroy the mirror if it would fell into the hands of his relative...

 

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Zebra3 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:17pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I don't think that the mirror Sirius gave to Harry was the Horcrux. At the end of OotP, after he tries contacting Sirius in it and fails, he throws it back into his trunk so forcefully that it shatters.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:17pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers) - Date Edited: 1/7/06 3:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JEDI_TEEGIRLOO
Well reading a little bit of the link Zebra posted i saw this.

JKR: No, it's just studying. The Department of Mysteries is all about studying. They study the mind, the universe, death€

MA: Are we going back to that room, that locked room?

JKR: No comment.


I was wondering if it was possible that one of the horcruxes could have fallen in to ministry's hands and put in the DOM of course they probably didnt know what they had but if Harry does go back there then he may actually be trying to find something specific there like a horcrux.

I doubt it though just trying to figure out why he would go back there.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:21pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Found it! happy

MA: R.A.B.

JKR: Ohhh, good.

[All laugh.]

JKR: No, I'm glad! Yes?

MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?

[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here]

JKR: Do you have a theory?

MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.

JKR: Have you now?

MA: Uh-oh.

[Laughter.]

JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.

MA: And perhaps, being Sirius’s brother, he had another mirror –

JKR: [drums fingers on soda can]

MA: Does he have the other mirror, or Sirius’s mirror —

JKR: I have no comment at all on that mirror. That mirror is not on the table. [Laughter from all; Jo's is maniacal.]

MA: Let the record note that she has drummed her fingers on her Coke can in a very Mr. Burns-like way.

[Laughter.]

JKR: Oh, I love Mr. Burns.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:40pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Very interesting indeed thinking

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:40pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
I think that the mirror sirius gave harry is more likely than the mirror of erised, oh and boogie voldemort has tried to kill harry since GOF he tried in the MOM but DD bewitched the statue to jump in front of harry to protect him.

 

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JEDI_TEEGIRLOO 
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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:49pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
Voldermort tried to possess Harry but he couldnt stand being in him if im correct about that i havent read it in awhile.

 

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Date Posted: 1/7/06 3:57pm Subject: RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horocrux? Book Seven Speculation (potential spoilers)
jedichef1 posted:
I think that the mirror sirius gave harry is more likely than the mirror of erised, oh and boogie voldemort has tried to kill harry since GOF he tried in the MOM but DD bewitched the statue to jump in front of harry to protect him.


However the Mirror of Erised fits as the Ravenclaw heirloom since it has raven claws (no pun intended) if I'm not mistaken.

Sirius' mirror could fit as the Gryffindor heirloom, but I'd rather see the Gryffindor heirloom come from Godric's Hollow. There's got to be a reason to go back than just to visit the graves. It's definitely in Godric's Hollow.

 

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