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Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Dark_Faith
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Date Posted:
7/23/07 11:46am
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RE: Harry Potter: The Last Horcrux? Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (blacked out spoilers allo
'Chamber of Secrets' is a wonderful, creepy and very mysterious and exciting, deep book. Many people unfortunately judge the book based off it's movie which was at best, mediocre.
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Bacon164
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7/23/07 11:53am
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I would have to put Chamber at the bottom of my list too... it's not that it's a bad novel, but I find the others more enjoyable.
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Zaz
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It's much better on rereading. Though there are some miscalculations...most notably the Deathday Party.
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I liked that it was Snape that Petunia overheard telling Lily about dementors. In the fifth book it was just "that rotten boy" or somesuch. It was assumed that it was James (especially as Harry says "If you mean my mum and dad . . ." but he boy was never actually named. I thought that was sweet. But the whole Snape loving Lily his entire life thing was too sad for words
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Zaz
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"that awful boy" actually. So Petunia did know something.
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NYCitygurl
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Yeah, that was it.
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ardavenport
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I haven't turned my computer on for three days because I was reading this book. Generally:
- Loved it, well worth the wait
- Good character development, like all the others
- Wow, what a lot of back story
I was sure that Snape was a double agent and I really did not think he was going to survive, so that turned out the way I expected. But I was not expecting Harry to have the chance to tell Voldermort and everyone Snape's story; that was excellent.
I don't think Snape would have ever 'liked' Harry because he was too much like his father and Snape really did not like James. Maybe they would have respected each other, if Snape had survived, but not much more than that.
And I really feel like Harry outsmarted Voldermort in the end, which is terrific.
I think that since Harry is not determined to die of natural causes, we can safely assume that he did NOT become an auror. And he's not a professor at Hogwarts. So, I do wonder what his regular job was. I wonder what James did? Honestly, I like the idea that Harry's a homemaker like Molly Weasley and Ginny has the outside job. I don't think that Harry is ever going to take life for granted.
I don't really have a favorite; I usually just rank them by page count.
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plo_koom
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This isn't exactly a spoiler, but did anyone think Voldemort seemed significantly less evil by the end of the book? Also, wouldn't be kind of awkward and Hogwarts and the ministry with OOTP members working along side Death Eaters?
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ardavenport
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Without going into details, um, no Voldemort was pretty evil in this, starting with the first chapter, and in the scenes where he kills people. (It cannot possibly be a spoiler that Voldemort kills people.) He was pretty evil in those scenes. And creepy. You did not have a lot of scenes with him in them, but he was not in the 5th book much either. Pretty evil there, too.
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plo_koom
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Well, he just seemed more sad than anything towards the end of the book. He didn't seem so much mean as emotionally empty and just doing what he thought he needed to do to fulfill his destiny.
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Katana_Geldar
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7/23/07 7:19pm
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He caught me as desperate, right at the end
particularly after Bellatrix died
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Hammurabi
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The main problem with Voldemort is he tries to Avada Kedavra Harry like, 20 times (half of them in this book) and it never works, and frequently results in disaster for Voldie. You'd think after all that he would just give up.
Seriously though, DD was absolutely right to say that Voldemort
chooses
to fulfill the prophecy. He marked Harry as his equal and, in the end, he killed himself with his own Avada Kedavra.
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RedHanded_Jill
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why are the bad guys always stupid?
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Good will always win because evil is dumb! [/Dark Helmet]
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Radical_Edward
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7/24/07 4:05am
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Re: the cover art.
Actually, the image on the American cover never occurs in the book. The image is artistic license; just as there is no instance in the first book where Harry catches a snitch while flying beneath an archway with a unicorn running past in the first book, there is never a moment when both Harry and Tom are reaching out like that at the same time while standing in that place.
The moment that the Avada backfires on Riddle is the same moment that he's hit with the expelliarmus and loses the wand. When the Elder Wand leaves his hand, he's already dead. Harry's the only one who reaches up to catch it. When the wand reaches his hand, Riddle has already keeled over and is about to hit the ground.
Fantastically impressed with this book. I think that Rowling has continued her streak of improving the quality of her writing and stories with each passing book, this one being no exception. It also felt far and away like the most epic, expansive, and biggest book of the series. Around page 500 I started thinking to myself that what I had already read felt like it was twice the length of any of the other novels, and I'd just passed the climax of the story at that point
I consider the meeting with Xeno Lovegood to be the climax of the story, at least in the Shakeaspearean sense of the word, if not the Hollywood sense.
I was amazed how so many minuscule details from every book and every plot thread and every character arc managed to not only make its way into the book, but also be relevant and necessary. Maybe it was just accident that all the pieces fell into place so well (in which case, she's got to be the luckiest author in the history of the world when her storylines got fleshed out) but it looks like her plotting of the whole story was tremendously intricate and complex and the execution was brilliant.
I am absolutely convinced that there is no way in hell that this book could possibly be turned into a film worth watching, and I think that it would be in the best interests of the artistic world if they didn't create a film for the sixth or seventh books. If they must make a sixth film, then at least they could just make the seventh film a made-for-television miniseries of someone reading the book on camera, with occasional clips of the most visual parts of the story acted out and stuffed with the necessary CGI. Cutting anything beyond an occasional paragraph or perhaps a few pages would be a disservice to the entire series and its fans.
I was most pleased with the sense of danger that this book managed to create. It felt like a long story, like I was beside the three for their year of wandering, but despite the sensation of it being a long and tedious road, there was always the impending sense of palpable danger, which authors can rarely create and which has only existed for pages or chapters at a time in previous books.
Impressed that she managed to bring back and include every significant and minor character still alive (barring only Lockhart) and not make it feel like she was trying to include everyone.
Loved the richness of Dumbledore's backstory, particularly its darker and controversial aspects. Bringing Grindelwald, once merely an off-hand reference in an early chapter of the first book, into such prominence and executing it so well is a cheering point for me.
I was horrified by the deaths of Lupin and Tonks. I thought that after Moody and Dobby died, the main deaths were done (I thought she said only two major deaths?) and then when Fred went out, I figured that one or the other wasn't considered important and now both were safe. My favorite character (Lupin) being killed off, especially in such a causal and blasé manner, receiving a mere two sentences on the topic, was not something I did not care for.
Molly Weasly's moment of triumph was brilliant. After three books of her worrying and fussing, which made the audience wound-up reading about her, seeing her release it all upon Bellatrix was tremendous. I was hoping for some cold-blooded revenge from Neville, though.
Abelforth's prominence in the story was a bold move. I loved the character transformation of Neville's grandmother and the Malfoys, and even Percy's to a certain extent. Snape recieved a fair ending, given the rushed nature of the last 75 pages, and the subtlety of his final talk with Riddle was great.
My biggest gripe: I would have liked more of an epilogue. I wanted to know more about what happened later. What sort of jobs did they get after it was all over? When did who marry whom? What happened with the Ministry, the Death Eaters, the Order, the Dementors, the whole political situation, everything that happens with Hogwarts? Who's the next real minister and headmaster? It was a fun excursion at the end, but it didn't give nearly enough. Like tasting a spoon of watered-down broth instead of getting to eat the bowl of soup.
I think I spotted an error; perhaps someone could explain it away. In Snapes' memory, Dumbledore while still alive instructs Snape to be careful and not get killed, or Hogwarts will be left to the Carrows. How could he have known while still alive that those two, of all people, would be sent to work at Hogwarts, much less that Snape would be made Headmaster, after the ministry falls?
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